Somali-Star

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

In all seriousness sxb, there's something I wanna ask you and I hope you'll give me some insight into it. I notice you are bitterly opposed to the manhaj of Suufis, Salafis, Talafis, Ikhwaans, Shias, Tablighis and every other conceivable group that claims "Islam". So what is your Aqeedah then? Which scholars do you take from?

p.s. let's keep this respectful please (general request to anyone who replies).

[RuralMan08]

If what you say is true concerning this brother then Im afraid he is one of the few who will make up his own sect and have a huge following in the near future. We just have to decide the fancy name we'll use as a label. How does "dajalliya" sound or perhaps "Najmiyya"?

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

p.s. let's keep this respectful please (general request to anyone who replies).

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

bump bump bump

[Siciid85]

Somali star is undercover CIA operative sent to pretend like devout Muslim. He is a bait folks, dont bite it.

I saw this on CNN on Anderson Cooper with two supposedly former Jewish guys who converted to Islam. But later I came to found out they were CIA undercover operatives claiming to sympathize with Osama bin Laden and Muslim and Jihaadi groups worldwide. They claimed to love him more than their own selfs. Dont believe this if you guys see it. In America there is no such thing as freedom of speech when it comes to Muslims expressing radical views. Fact is if one is actual Muslim and said stuff like they have, they would be shipped to Gitmo no questions asked.
Poster Pardon my interruption...as you were.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

[Siciid85]

My advise is legitimate, If you dont like it then go fock yourself asshole.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

I don't have a problem with ur advice sxb, my problem is I don't really care what you have to say in general. Thanks for coming out (not really).

[Siciid85]

As I said, pardon my interruption...Carry on gentlemen.

[ModerateMuslim]

damn, an old question i see

yes, i'm opposed to the manhaj of the groups you've mentioned. nor do like it when muslims start identifying themselves by labels other than the ones allah swt has chosen for us; imo this nothing but accommodating astray groups/sects when we abandon the labels allah has chosen for us. its also the main cause of the divisions and hizbiyyah which the ummah is suffering through today. takfeer should be the solution instead of retreat and accommodation. but that's just my opinion and my jahil opinions don't have anyplace in this deen.


as for my aqeedah and whom i fellow, well, my aqeedah is the aqeedah of the sahaba, and i follow mainly the salaf and khalaf scholars. also the najdi scholars from the era of imam ibn abdul wahhab to the turn of the last century. but from the modern scholars i tend to trust only active mujahid scholars or ones who've passed away.

[ModerateMuslim]

I saw this on CNN on Anderson Cooper with two supposedly former Jewish guys who converted to Islam.

i don't always agree with them, but by allah those are two sincere brothers. allah is witness to your slander. also, you've ignorantly and indirectly made takfeer of these brothers and me by ridiculously accusing us of being cia agents.

[Siciid85]

Wallahi I'm not slandering the good Muslim. I consider myself a devout Muslim and oppose I oppose the harsh treatments Muslim people are being subjected to.

Well enough about that: You watch yourself.


A two Jew men born and raised in the U.S became Muslim and suddenly praising Osama bin laden?

Do you agree with those two zionists Muslim imposters?

I'm very suspicious of anyone who preaches radical point of views on the internet and yet never really practices it himself? I dont have anything against you personally, but that was the case in many Alshabab sympathizers in Minnesota who preached to young kids to drop out of school and die in Somalia for sake of Allah though.

[ModerateMuslim]

two zionists Muslim imposters?

wallahi this is unjust! i'm well familiar with the dawah of these two brothers and somewhat acquainted with brothers who personally know them and i can honestly tell you that they're more sincere in allah's cause than at least 90% of people who see themselves as muslims. in fact, of the few disagreements i have with them and the main one, is their partisanship towards hamas! yes, hamas! (one of them - yusuf al-khattab - has even married into the leadership of hamas!)

but alas, i'm, according to you, i cia agent and therefore a kaffir so why should you believe me? continue slandering and making takfeer of sincere brothers and see what this gets you.

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

damn, an old question i see

yes, i'm opposed to the manhaj of the groups you've mentioned. nor do like it when muslims start identifying themselves by labels other than the ones allah swt has chosen for us; imo this nothing but accommodating astray groups/sects when we abandon the labels allah has chosen for us. its also the main cause of the divisions and hizbiyyah which the ummah is suffering through today. takfeer should be the solution instead of retreat and accommodation. but that's just my opinion and my jahil opinions don't have anyplace in this deen.


as for my aqeedah and whom i fellow, well, my aqeedah is the aqeedah of the sahaba, and i follow mainly the salaf and khalaf scholars. also the najdi scholars from the era of imam ibn abdul wahhab to the turn of the last century. but from the modern scholars i tend to trust only active mujahid scholars or ones who've passed away.

I agree with 99% of what you wrote here, and despite what anyone on this site thinks, I think your intentions are genuine. The only part I disagree with u on is the takfiir part, and it's something I disagree with strongly. Takfiir should be reserved only for the most learned of our Ummah, the Culemaa, because there's a science behind it and isn't always as simple as making takfiir according to who the Prophet SAW made takfiir upon, because laymen might not understand the reasons why takfiir was made upon them by the Prophet SAW. Making takfiir upon someone is a slippery slope, and one where the utmost amount of caution must be exercised, lest u err and unknowingly leave the folds of Islam through it.

As for the scholars that have passed which u said u take from, do they include Ibn Baaz, Uthaymiin and Albaani (Raxiimahumullah)? And for active scholars, do you take from Shaykh Al-Ashaykh, the current Mufti of Saudi Arabia?

[Siciid85]

Somali star,

So you know them? how long have they been Muslims?

They lied and quoted the words of Allah out of context: They said Allah said in the Quran we should terrorize every non Muslim? These guys are clearly either ignorant about the religion or just as I mentioned on cia payroll.

Disregard what I said about you: But I dont think you are acquinted with these guys well enough, because a brother who is well inform has told me this same things. I believe him and his theory is more closer to the truth.