wow somalis in Kenya !

[Diva19]

[kambuli]

Wow or Bisinka

[Voltage]

That place is a power keg waiting to be set off wallahi.

[Kinetic]

^ I am not sure I will feel sorry for these somalis when that happens. They don't want to build their country, they contribute to the qabyaalad, they hate each other, some with money get other somalis evicted(forget about these kenyans, they are doing it to each other through price hikes and bidding secretly making the owners an offer he can't refuse). Let it explode. Ha u noqdaan Soomaaliya. Iyagaa waddankii soo gubay ee ha arkaan qiimaha Soomaaliya leedahay.

[Voltage]

THat's like some Englishman saying "deport all these Somalis back to Somalia, its their fault their country is messed up". For every crooked business man there are thousands of innocent people who are powerless and innocent. Why should all Somali refugees suffer for the crooked business deals of pirates and welfare money from the west?

[Kinetic]

THat's like some Englishman saying "deport all these Somalis back to Somalia, its their fault their country is messed up". For every crooked business man there are thousands of innocent people who are powerless and innocent. Why should all Somali refugees suffer for the crooked business deals of pirates and welfare money from the west?

They should all be deported, especially somalis who come from areas with peace and relative peace who are in Kenya to put pressure on their relatives in the West for money. Most of them may not have money and are not businessmen, but they are are there for the wrong reasons. There are people losing their head in North America working two jobs and making ends meet to satisfy these refugees in Nairobi. On top of their backbreak, they deal with insults and mean-spirited relatives who can never understand money isn't dug out of wells. Dadkaasoo kale need to be expelled from Nairobi back to where they came from.

[Executive]

Kenya

Somalis in Tanzania run things

[The Nomad]

Somalis are doing well in Kenya. Public sentiment towards them isn't close to SA, but the business activities are. Merely more high-end.

Garissa Lodge, Eastleigh is an excellent example.

[Voltage]

They should all be deported, especially somalis who come from areas with peace and relative peace who are in Kenya to put pressure on their relatives in the West for money. Most of them may not have money and are not businessmen, but they are are there for the wrong reasons. There are people losing their head in North America working two jobs and making ends meet to satisfy these refugees in Nairobi. On top of their backbreak, they deal with insults and mean-spirited relatives who can never understand money isn't dug out of wells. Dadkaasoo kale need to be expelled from Nairobi back to where they came from.

Do you hear yourself you ignorant and close minded asshole with buggers coming down your nose?

The only difference that separates a hapless Somali refugee in Nairobi and yourself in somewhere Europe or North America is a single degree of luck and/or chance. It is not their fault you came to a developed society that can take care of you, educate you, and make you subsist and they are stuck in a third world country that cannot help them let alone send them on a path of even legal citizenship.

If they should go back to the hell hole of Somalia, so too should you go back and maybe understand what humanity means. Duufle, people like you disgust me.

[Voltage]

Somalis are doing well in Kenya. Public sentiment towards them isn't close to SA, but the business activities are. Merely more high-end.

Garissa Lodge, Eastleigh is an excellent example.

Garissa Lodge and Eastleigh are a slum and Somali "doing well" is a relative observation as I have already said because when you are in shit, anything makes you shine. Originally there was a equilibrium in that Somalis actually worked hard and everyone in it, including the poor Kenyans in the area was well off across the board because goods and services went down and the Indians were given a competition.

In the last couple years, the warlord money of Mogadishu, combined with piracy profit, and welfare money from the West has upset the equilibrium and is going to set that place up in flames. Engulfed will be all the money invested including the ability of Somalis to continue to live there or among the rest of the Bantu people in Kenya.

[The Nomad]

Garissa Lodge and Eastleigh are a slum and Somali "doing well" is a relative observation as I have already said because when you are in shit, anything makes you shine. Originally there was a equilibrium in that Somalis actually worked hard and everyone in it, including the poor Kenyans in the area was well off across the board because goods and services went down and the Indians were given a competition.

Well, it's obviously relative. Or do you think their prosperity is in comparison to first world standards? Compared to established ethnic Kenyans, Somalis immigrants are doing well. Naturally, it's nothing to write home about since neither demographic is especially impressive, but it's progress.

In the last couple years, the warlord money of Mogadishu, combined with piracy profit, and welfare money from the West has upset the equilibrium and is going to set that place up in flames. Engulfed will be all the money invested including the ability of Somalis to continue to live there or among the rest of the Bantu people in Kenya.

In the last couple of years there have been no signs that this 'equilibrium' will be affected by other factors, economic growth in Somali-populated areas is as it has been. Welfare money has little effect, and the money that is sent supplements Somalis in general since it will likely be used to set up businesses or for investment purposes.

Corruption has affected all of Kenya, it isn't something inherent to the Somali community there, if anything due to the nature of the businesses and the fact that they are generally independent and not reliant on external factors, Somalis will not be terribly afflicted.

There's no need for melodrama, saxib.

[Voltage]

Nomad, no offense but do you talk for the sake of talking?

Do you think two 4 story buildings built with pirate money is representative of general well being of the majority Somali refugee population? Do you understand that Somalis themselves cannot survive or rent out buildings in the area because of the inflation the illegal money by few people is rising in the area?

I went to Kenya last year, I was around the area for three months. I know what I am talking about do you?

[XKeyse_]

Somalis had a respect in Kenya when Isaaq were the majoirty of the immigrant during pre-1970's , then the war took place and the southern ruined the somali name from Kenya all the way to Tanzina, now the sinches ( N.F.D) somalis and the southern refugees soiled the name somali.

[sadeboi]

Isaq iska daa ee haberyonis inoga sheekeye...you laangaab...your always injecting Isaq into everything.

[The Nomad]

Nomad, no offense but do you talk for the sake of talking?

Do you think two 4 story buildings built with pirate money is representative of general well being of the majority Somali refugee population?

I went to Kenya last year, I was around the area for three months. I know what I am talking about do you?

No, I have no idea. I've read reports and I have access to statistics, that's all.

Please, how are things in Kenya? I'm sure being there for a while in a hotel which caters to tourists, having no knowledge of transactions and looking down on beggars gives you so much insight, since squalor equals lack of progress, right?

Your constant assertions that any progress is due to 'pirate money' is wrong since reports exist that state unequivocally that there is no link between Somali businesses and illicit funds.

This is pirate money? :

One of the Eastleigh business community who was not authorized to speak to the media told me that the Kenyan-Somali's from Diaspora were bringing a total of $40 million monthly for massive investments in the real estate and other business ventures that has accordingly led to high prices of land. This has caused the increasing rents of houses and prices of the land where Somali community has established.

That's from August 2009.