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Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:54 am
by Ducaysane_87
Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Mogadishu, Somalia (APA) - Islamic militants belonging to the Al Qaeda-inspired Al Shabab movement in Somalia arrested and lashed more than 200 Somali women since Tuesday for failing to wear veils within two weeks.
Most of the women were arrested in the villages of Suqa holaha, Daynile and the main Bakara market in Mogadishu which is a hotbed for the Somali insurgents fighting the transitional federal government and AU peacekeepers in the capital.
Residents in the Daynile district in Mogadishu say dozens of old women were hospitalized after they were beaten by the extremist militias on Wednesday as the two-week ultimatum to wear veils expires.
A 24-year old woman who asked anonymity because of security told APA that she cannot afford the veil and its skirt and she has decided to remain at home to escape from being lashed or arrested.
A resident in the Suqa Holaha village who gave his name only as Yasir because of security reasons told APA that his grandmother, aged 65, was beaten on Wednesday morning when she was caught walking in the Bakara Market without wearing a veil.
The militants control most of south-central Somali and large parts of the capital where all women have been ordered to cover their bodies or face punishment.
The veil and its skirt cost more than 500 Somali shillings and most of the poor Somali women cannot afford to pay the money. As a result, hundreds of women who failed to wear veils have been arrested since late Tuesday.
Source: APA, Oct. 14, 2009
http://hiiraan.com/news2/2009/Oct/hundr ... veils.aspx
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:57 am
by Ka darag
The veil is the niqab right?? bt it aint qasab so y dey getting lashed?? confused ppl

Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:03 am
by The Nomad
Ka darag wrote:The veil is the niqab right?? bt it aint qasab so y dey getting lashed?? confused ppl

Reputable Shuyookh agree the niqab is fardh, particularly in the Shafici madhab (which the majority of Somalis subscribe to).
Ibn Abidin states: “(A young woman will be prevented from exposing her face), not because it is part of Awra, rather (for the fear of temptation)”. (Radd al-Muhtar, 1/406)
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:06 am
by Ka darag
The Nomad wrote:Ka darag wrote:The veil is the niqab right?? bt it aint qasab so y dey getting lashed?? confused ppl

Reputable Shuyookh agree the niqab is fardh, particularly in the Shafici madhab (which the majority of Somalis subscribe to).
Ibn Abidin states: “(A young woman will be prevented from exposing her face), not because it is part of Awra, rather (for the fear of temptation)”. (Radd al-Muhtar, 1/406)
Yaa ??

Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:16 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
Ignore this kaffir, niqaab is not fardh.
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:17 am
by CoolPoisons
Ka darag adiga dhaqan celis ayaa u bahantahay
U must be 1 of those Halimos in London who dont wear Hijab and act like Jamicains
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:18 am
by Ka darag
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:19 am
by Xamud.
Niqaab is not a must and to be honest I`m not a fond of Niqaab, it covers too much if you as me, there`s no need too cover the face Cawro maha.
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:19 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
dozens of old women were hospitalized after they were beaten by the extremist militias on Wednesday as the two-week ultimatum to wear veils expires.

Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:19 am
by The Nomad
O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Niqab is fard (keyword: fardh) in Salafi Islam (Ahl al-Sunnah), I don't know about the religion you follow.
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:21 am
by The Nomad
Tafseer - Commentary by Ibn Jarir and Ahkam-ul-Quran, Vol.III, p.457
Imam Muhammad bin Sirin said: "When I asked Ubaida bin Sufyan bin al-Harith (ra) the meaning of this verse and how the jalbaab was to worn, he demonstrated it to me by pulling a sheet of cloth over his head to cover his entire body, leaving the left eye uncovered. This was also the explanation of the word 'Alaihinna in this verse"
Only one eye is allowed to be uncovered according to the scholars on the Manhaj and of the correct Aqeedah.
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:22 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
The Nomad wrote:O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils)* all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Niqab is fard (keyword: fardh) in Salafi Islam (Ahl al-Sunnah), I don't know about the religion you follow.
Stick to clan bashing mate, the whole faux wadaad thing isn't working.
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:23 am
by The Nomad
Crazy Cat Lady wrote:
Stick to clan bashing mate, the whole faux wadaad thing isn't working.
I am qualified to make Fatwa
The clan discussion is just a sub-topic of Islam, qabiil is an Islamic institution.
Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:24 am
by galia
Al-shabaab are like a nightmare that cannot be woken from

Re: Hundreds of Somali women jailed, lashed for not wearing veil
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:29 am
by TheBigBosS
Crazy Cat Lady wrote:Ignore this kaffir, niqaab is not fardh.
The Prophet (sws) said, "man kaffara musliman faqad kafar" which means "whoever calls a Muslim a kaafir, he is a kaafir."
