The TRUE Sufi

AMAT-ALLAH · Post by **AMAT-ALLAH** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:22 pm

THE TRUE SUFI

What makes the Sufi? Purity of heart;
Not the patched mantle and the lust perverse
Of those vile earth-bound men who steal his name.
He in all dregs discerns the essence pure:
In hardship ease, in tribulation joy.
The phantom sentries, who with batons drawn
Guard Beauty's place-gate and curtained bower,
Give way before him, unafraid he passes,
And showing the King's arrow, enters in.

R. A. Nicholson

'Persian Poems', an Anthology of verse translations
edited by A.J.Arberry, Everyman's Library, 1972

Kamal35 · Post by **Kamal35** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:29 pm

Amat: It's 1.20 am here. It's so hot. I'm on my balcony, breathing the fresh air, looking at this bright moon right now and reading Ibn Arabi. Just relaxing. Thanks for the info. For me, suffism was always the best way to get in touch with Islam from a non-muslim point of view. He's the connection of non-muslims with muslim. He's a kind of bridge.

By the way, how was the Tariq Ramadan lecture? You didn't speak about it.
really much.

PD: I'm in a really good mood, after a hard day working. Can't go to the beach tomorrow nor Sunday because I'm at work. But I have the feeling that, if I keep on reading posts in Somalinet -I only read the titles of the thread- my mood is gonna change. Better keep on reading Ibn Arabi and then going to bed. It's more healthy.

My question is: Why are so many idiots in this world in ALL sides? We have this fresh air, a full moon shinning for all kinds of beings, this beautiful, although really hot, night. Life. The lights of the city at night. The sound of cars sounding far away. Children playing and laughing because it's so hot that they can't sleep.

And the idiots of ALL sides want to destroy that...

I'll better keep on reading Ibn Arabi while hearing a symphony by Mozart. Later, I'll put on my CD-player some stuff by The Rolling Stones. Then, bed time.

Thanks for the poem.

gurey25 · Post by **gurey25** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:50 pm

Hi ther Kamal
and Amat.

Kamal glad you like Ibn-Arabi but its sad to tell you that the guy was a
raving lunatic, barking mad.
Infact one famous story is about him, having a heated debate with a
street dog, in public.

but there is a thin line between genius and insane,
and im a sucker for the wierd thats why i keep a volume of his work
at home as well.

Laughing

Kamal35 · Post by **Kamal35** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:58 pm

Hey, Gurey, worst was the story of Wahab who was completly crazy, and now people follows Wahabism.

I prefer to be called a Arabist than a Wahabist. I love suffism better than wahabism

*Proud_Muslimah* · Post by ***Proud_Muslimah*** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:26 am

Peace,

MYTH: Shaikh Abdul Wahhab RH called his movement "Wahhabis"

The extent to which "Wahabism" was sought to be described as a seperate religion and a misguided group shows that this name is highly objectionable. There are sources of this name, but it is not Shaikh Abdul Wahhab.

Origins of the name:
1. Burckhardt (British) came to Hejaz in 1816 CE and prepared a memorandum in connection with the "Wahhabis". This was later published in two volumes in 1831 as "Notes on the Bediouns and the Wahabys". He has used the term Wahabi repeatedly.
2. Abdur Rahman Jabrati - He also used the term Wahabi frequently around the same time.

The message of Shaikh Abdul Wahhab (RH) is not a new thing. He does not present anything more than the teaching of the Quran and the Sunnah. But the opponents, under political motivations, nicknamed the Shaikh's mission as Wahabism and presented it in such a manner as if the invitation was being extended for a religion other than Islam.

Kamal35 · Post by **Kamal35** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:22 am

Proud. I disagree here: Wahab was insane from the beggining. Even his father and his brothers said that he was mad. He wanted the world to come back to the early days of the Prophet and forget all the evolutions the world had since then.

Ibn Arabi turned out crazy in his last days. But his books are quite good and fantastic.

He suffered the same kind of disease as Nietzsche. In his last days, or ten last years, Nietzsche was completly out of his mind, talking with horses in the street, like Ibn Arabi. But that doesn't overshadow both Ibn Arabi and Friedrich Nietzsche monumental works.

Gurey: I stand for the genius. How many genius didn't ended their days completly crazy? Look at Salvador DalÃƒÂ, Beethoven, etc. Reading Ibn Arabi, I notice I'm in front of a genius, not a madman.