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Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:15 am
by Oxidant
There are many claims of what ethnicity, Ahmed Gurey was. What evidence is there that is one either of these three.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:21 am
by Hyperactive
you're openning a warm can now.
now some will claim his tribe is from their sub sub sub clan and others will disagree and so on then clan bashing will start.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:23 am
by Oxidant
hyperactive wrote:you're openning a warm can now.
now some will claim his tribe is from their sub sub sub clan and others will disagree and so on then clan bashing will start.
U
Last time I created a thread asking the meaning of Qabil names and they said it will lead to clan bashing. But it didn't hopefully it doesn't happen again.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:28 am
by Oxidant
Did a quick research. Most people agree he was Somali. Then read a Somali forum and they started fighting over his clan
Savages
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:32 am
by king of kismayo
Who ahmed gurey was is self evident and not up for speculation, ethiopianimo or arabnimo is out of the picture.
“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”
winston churchill hill
All hail the great conqueror called imam Axmed ibrahim
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:30 am
by sheekh-Farax-zero
Ahmed Gurey was 100% maryooley

Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:55 am
by The Nomad
Axmed Gurey was a Maakhiri Arab Warsangeli.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:04 pm
by Stellaa
He was Marexan, his second in command was deffo Marexan too

Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:06 pm
by Gara Man
I dont think gragn was a somali. Theres evidence of him being a Afar but if not that he for sure is arab in my mind.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:10 pm
by The Nomad
Gara Man wrote:I dont think gragn was a somali. Theres evidence of him being a Afar but if not that he for sure is arab in my mind.
Correct. The only two theories which stand up to scrutiny is him being an Arab or an Nux Cumar Afar.
Anything else is implausible.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:22 pm
by Gara Man
The Nomad wrote:Gara Man wrote:I dont think gragn was a somali. Theres evidence of him being a Afar but if not that he for sure is arab in my mind.
Correct. The only two theories which stand up to scrutiny is him being an Arab or an Nux Cumar Afar.
Anything else is implausible.

I have to admit you agreeing with me has surprised me.I am used to seeing somalis more attached to him than what you have presented.
But either way he has become the salah ul din of the horn by every ethnic claiming him.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:30 pm
by The Nomad
Imam Gurey belongs to the same tribe regardless of whether he's 'Arab', 'Somali' or 'Afar'. There's no need to spread falsehood about him being Somali when it's historically correct to say he's Arab or Afar. It's not like it makes a difference either way, he's still a son of Makhiir. It's splitting hairs.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:15 pm
by talxenegus
The Nomad wrote:Imam Gurey belongs to the same tribe regardless of whether he's 'Arab', 'Somali' or 'Afar'. There's no need to spread falsehood about him being Somali when it's historically correct to say he's Arab or Afar. It's not like it makes a difference either way, he's still a son of Makhiir. It's splitting hairs.
then why did his wife marry a KNOWN somali man, Nur ibn Mujahid, who known to be marehan. We also known that Somalis have this culture of marrying their near relatives( brthers mainly) wives when their husband dies inorder to ensure that nothing foes wrong either financially or socially with the kids and widowed mother.
so come with stonger proof then just claims....was he an Arab naaah I dont think so.
He was as Somali as xaawo taako.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:50 pm
by bareento
Hi,
I recall reading a book in amharic (written before contemprary ethio/somali rivalty), in which its stated that he was a BALAW;
Balaw is described as an extinct Afar or mixed Afar/Tigre tribe.
But from what I read (on the net) a lot of Somali Clans and Sub-Clans claim him with more or less convincing arguments.
Nomad,
Would u be more explicit when u imply the Imam being from Makhir? Thnx
I always wondered why did the Imam loose the war? I do not think four hundred Portuguese were enough to change the balance of power!
Besides he had the backing of ottoman, and their artillery!
its mystery for me!
B.
Re: Ahmed Gurey: Somali,Ethiopian or Arab
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:57 pm
by talxenegus
The fact that you ead AMharic doesnt make you very objective talking about this subject.
Its like reading a Nook written about Prophet Moahmed written by an English-man.