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Ayan Hirsi Ali in the Economist

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Ayan is wrong to insult the nation that gave her a step ladder into her cottage industry, :down:

I do admire her ever chameleon like slick behavior done in only a way, a Puntlander could do it. The audacity and swagga :lol: :up:
People move for a variety of reasons. Alejandro Mayorkas, the head of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, cites two. People come to America, he says, either because they yearn for freedom or because they are fleeing something. That something could be a civil war, or it could be a culture that irks them. In Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s case, it was both.

She was born in Somalia. As a young girl she was circumcised. “I heard it, like a butcher snipping the fat off a piece of meat,” she recalls. Her grandmother taught her to expect men to be violent. If attacked, she told her to duck behind the man, reach up inside his sarong, grab his testicles and crush them.

Ms Hirsi Ali grew up strong-willed. She fled from Somalia’s civil war, and then from an arranged marriage. She sought asylum in the Netherlands, a country that she found shockingly nice. The policemen were polite and helpful, instead of demanding bribes with menaces. The government gave refugees room and board. “Where did they get the money from?” she wondered, “Why didn’t it run out?”

She quickly learned Dutch and found work as an interpreter. In this job, she visited shelters for battered women, where she noticed that nearly all the victims were Muslims. These women seldom pressed charges against their violent husbands. The social workers would ask: “Do you have family here? Can they help you?” The women would reply: “But they support my husband, of course!” This infuriated Ms Hirsi Ali: “I knew that many Dutch women were abused, too. But their community and their family didn’t approve of it.”

She began to campaign against domestic violence. She became a member of parliament, and won a dangerous kind of fame as an ex-Muslim apostate. With a Dutch filmmaker, Theo van Gogh, she made a short film about what she saw as the oppression of women under Islam. An outraged fanatic murdered van Gogh and stabbed into his chest a letter to Ms Hirsi Ali, promising to kill her, too. So she moved to America, where she is not famous. She keeps sensibly quiet about where she lives, but she can travel and shop without the constant fear of death.

Speaking in Dallas, she praises the intellectual freedom in America. In the Netherlands, she says, think-tanks are typically subsidised by the government and tied to a political party. This makes them timid, she believes. If an idea sounds too controversial, they shy away from it. For example, she had a theory that government-funded Muslim schools in the Netherlands were fostering self-segregation, and asked if they should be closed. No one wanted to listen, she says; her colleagues feared appearing racist.

In America swarms of privately funded think-tanks represent almost any view you can imagine. Their response to hard questions is more serious, she says. People ask if your hypothesis is true, and then suggest ways to raise the money to find out. In America, Ms Hirsi Ali found the funds to set up a foundation to study violence against Muslim women. No one has a clue how common this is in America. She means to find out.

She admits that before visiting America she had a negative view of the country. Listening to her Dutch friends, she assumed that Americans were fat, loutish, naive and sexually repressed. “But then I came here and found it was all false,” she smiles.

Outsiders sometimes assume that it is hard to be an outspoken atheist in a devout country such as America. Ms Hirsi Ali thinks it is easy. Many Christians ask if she is a believer. When she replies no, she says “they don’t try to kill me. They say they’ll pray for me”.

Besides Somalia and the Netherlands, Ms Hirsi Ali has lived in Ethiopia, Kenya and Saudi Arabia. Of all these places, she considers America to be the easiest place to assimilate. She has her niche, hanging out with “nerdy academics” and eating Japanese food. Unlike Mr Lee, she is more or less divorced from her native culture. But that works just fine in America. “I’m surprised how fast complete strangers will invite you into their houses,” she says. Asked what she dislikes about her new home, she mentions that the air-conditioning is too cold.
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WHY DOESN'T SHE CHANGE HER NAME
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The Dutch got over her I suggest Somalis do the same, That woman is irrelevant she is just a attention W-h*re who wants to grab news headlines.
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where does she live in america? what state/city?

i will pretend to be a runaway mj from puntland fleeing forced marriage. then we can be friends, then i will snitch her out to some morrocan guy :lol: :lol:
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..and we're talking about her becuase?
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Dhaga Bacayl wrote:..and we're talking about her becuase?
i dont know why, but i think cuz she's mj. there are so many anti-mj on snet. just my 2 cents :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Dhaga,

Its because her flip flopping is hilarious.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Dhaga,

Its because her flip flopping is hilarious.
She is closer to us secularists than Al Shabab and the religious fitnah :lol:
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Twisted,

I told you, 1,000 times, this woman is credit to her clan :up:
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"As a young girl she was circumcised. “I heard it, like a butcher snipping the fat off a piece of meat,” she recalls"


:shock: Is that a direct quote from her? How dispeakable and pornographic! Walle naagtaani waa freaky! :clap: :clap:


I think A.Hirsi is delusional, bi-polar and just lonely. U know, nothing is worst than being an atheist and african at the same time. It defies anthropological stereotype, or nature's calculations if you will. :x
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Basra- wrote:"As a young girl she was circumcised. “I heard it, like a butcher snipping the fat off a piece of meat,” she recalls"


:shock: Is that a direct quote from her? How dispeakable and pornographic! Walle naagtaani waa freaky! :clap: :clap:


I think A.Hirsi is delusional, bi-polar and just lonely. U know, nothing is worst than being an atheist and african at the same time. It defies anthropological stereotype, or nature's calculations if you will. :x

For six yrs, this is the first time I saw you saying something intelligent.

Well done fatty!
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Dhaga


It is ironic that u of all people should call me Fatty and worst u of all people should be the campus to intellectual brilliance. Walaahi in online---people can be whatever they want to be. :clap: :clap:
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Basra- wrote:Dhaga


It is ironic that u of all people should call me Fatty and worst u of all people should be the campus to intellectual brilliance. Walaahi in online---people can be whatever they want to be. :clap: :clap:

Of course fatty. Look at you acting sexy and sophisticated on line when the reality on the ground is far from It.! :lol:
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:shock: Dhaga u think i come off as sexy and sophisicated? :shock: :oops: I am blushing! :oops: :clap: :clap:
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Basra- wrote::shock: Dhaga u think i come off as sexy and sophisicated? :shock: :oops: I am blushing! :oops: :clap: :clap:

I said, you ACT like it.
You come off ugly, fat and delusional.
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