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Guy refused citizenship for forcing niqaab

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The French government has refused to grant citizenship to a foreign national on the grounds that he forced his wife to wear the full Islamic veil.

The man, whose current nationality was not given, needed citizenship to settle in the country with his French wife.

But Immigration Minister Eric Besson said this was being refused because he was depriving his wife of the liberty to come and go with her face uncovered.

Last week, a parliamentary committee proposed a partial ban on full veils.

It also recommended that anyone showing visible signs of "radical religious practice" be refused residence permits and citizenship.

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In a statement, Mr Besson said he had signed a decree on Tuesday rejecting a man's citizenship application after it emerged that he had ordered his wife to cover herself with a head-to-toe veil.

"It became apparent during the regulation investigation and the prior interview that this person was compelling his wife to wear the all-covering veil, depriving her of the freedom to come and go with her face uncovered, and rejected the principles of secularism and equality between men and women," he said.

Later, the minister stressed that French law required anyone seeking naturalisation to demonstrate their desire for integration.

Mr Besson's decree has now been sent to Prime Minister Francois Fillon for approval.

The interior ministry says only 1,900 women wear full veils in France, home to Europe's biggest Muslim minority.

In 2008, a French court denied citizenship to a Moroccan woman on the grounds that her "radical" practice of Islam was incompatible with French values.
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Mad May wrote:
Are you listening Gordon?
Are you saying the UK should ban the niqaab or ban people who force women to wear the niqaab?

Also personally I cant see anyone in the UK being forced to wear the niqaab, as they are a simple phone call away from the authorities. All the girls I know wear it out of personal choice and infact its often the parents/partner that discourage their daughters wearing the niqaab.
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he forced his wife to wear the full Islamic veil
This is troubling for me. People like this should not be granted citizenship, I dont want to see the niqaab banned however.
I dont know any women like this either, I also dont know of any Muslim women who are beaten by their husbands, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
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Fortunately, Gordon has much more sense than to follow the frogs down that ugly road. :mrgreen:
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Paddington Bear wrote:Fortunately, Gordon has much more sense than to follow the frogs down that ugly road. :mrgreen:
Mar mar xaar baad ku hadashaa :roll:
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Mad May wrote:
he forced his wife to wear the full Islamic veil
This is troubling for me. People like this should not be granted citizenship, I dont want to see the niqaab banned however.
I dont know any women like this either, I also dont know of any Muslim women who are beaten by their husbands, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

Too rare it actually care about. More pressing issue in France would be men who pimp their women and force them to wear revealing clothes, maybe the french can tackle issues like this first.
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Mad May wrote:
Paddington Bear wrote:Fortunately, Gordon has much more sense than to follow the frogs down that ugly road. :mrgreen:
Mar mar xaar baad ku hadashaa :roll:
Just because I disagree with your hasty ideas? :mrgreen:

You have much more sense than this, MM. Why do you always try to portray yourself as some sort of illogical teenager? Fix up.
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*Nobleman* wrote:
Mad May wrote:
he forced his wife to wear the full Islamic veil
This is troubling for me. People like this should not be granted citizenship, I dont want to see the niqaab banned however.
I dont know any women like this either, I also dont know of any Muslim women who are beaten by their husbands, doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

Too rare it actually care about. More pressing issue in France would be men who pimp their women and force them to wear revealing clothes, maybe the french can tackle issues like this first.
There have to be safeguards in place for all sorts of oppression, we dont know how big an issue it is. I see you're coming from the same place as the deported gentleman so I'll leave it here :lol:
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Paddington Bear wrote:
Mad May wrote:
Paddington Bear wrote:Fortunately, Gordon has much more sense than to follow the frogs down that ugly road. :mrgreen:
Mar mar xaar baad ku hadashaa :roll:
Just because I disagree with your hasty ideas? :mrgreen:

You have much more sense than this, MM. Why do you always try to portray yourself as some sort of illogical teenager? Fix up.
The idea that men who force women to be invisible ought to be deported? If you dont agree with the basic values of the republic, why apply for citizenship? :|
I think you should be deported :arrow:
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Oh there you go being controversial again. Cute. :mrgreen:

Thankfully, it is not up to you to deport anyone, my dear. I say hasty because your story does not make much sense but you are quick to agree with it. How did the French find out that this man was forcing his wife to wear the niqab? Did she tell them? If his wife is being forced and his wife knows he does not have citizenship, why did she not just walk away? Why is she even agreeing to help with his citizenship application if she knows that this nightmare of a man is going to eventually legally live with her and continue forcing her to wear the niqab? Lots of unanswered questions but May still wants Gordon to pay attention. :mrgreen:

Grown ups, dear May, take their time with such stories. You are too hasty for your own good.
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How did they figuer that he 'forced' her?

I really think this is just made up B.S. so that the public will be on the Frenchs' side.
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Gaalka dhulkiiisa NIMCADA taal waa la rabaa. in gaaalka DHALASHADIISA la qaato waa la rabaa! DHAR MADMADOOW iyo khamiis carbeedna in la xirtaa la jilayaa filim la yiraahdo(gaaal waa in BARII laga noqdaa)
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no1 shld b forced 2 wear da niqaab. :roll: Nwayz hw do dey knw dat she woz being forced? Did she cme farward n told em dat she was being forced? :|
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hmmm the prince of qatar is there to visit him, I wonder if He cares to talk this jew about french muslims. I don`t blame europeans I blame the towelheads who dont have a balls to take a stand against them. Imagine if they No Gas for a month???
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Ok Mad May, lets not beat around the bush. Your a well documented Islamphobe on snet and hate anything Islamic, stop beating around the bush and come straight out with it. Anyone in their right mind would know this is an isolated issue, if at all the truth. You'll probably never see any incident like this for the next 10 years. But Islamphobes like ur self love to highlight such exterme cases. Self hate at its best.
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