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So ironic that Ali Samantar who has never been directly accused of anything beyond defending and preserving the sovereignty and territorial integrity of his nation from Ethiopian-supplied rebels in the bush is hounded but a man, Dahir Riyale Kahin, who was an organ of secret state security and directly implicated in tarnishing the said nation's name by committing torture is now president of the same people hounding Ali Samantar.

How many other war criminals in Somaliland? What is that man they call Cawil Faqash?

This is from Rakiya Oomaar, sister of Rageh Oomaar, and long time researcher for Human Rights Watch:

Witnesses who are alive also recall Rayaale’s contribution to the war against civilians. One of the people I interviewed in Djibouti in August 1989 and who is cited in the book is Abdifatah Abdillahi Jirreh. He was only 14 at the time, but he remembered Dahir Rayaale.

One day in mid-August [1988], Dahir Rayaale, head of the NSS, came to our ice plant and took my father away. They also arrested one of the watchmen, an old man, Farah Badeh Gheedi. They were detained in the police station, accused of talking about the prospects of the SNM coming to Berbera.

Rayaale is not the only man who has held a senior political position in Somaliland whose conduct of human rights has been questioned. Many former Isaaq members of the NSS and the HANGASH, the military police that came to exert formidable power over civilians, today occupy key positions in Somaliland in the NSS, re-established in 1995, and the Criminal Investigations Department (CID). The people they tortured, interrogated and spied on, and the people whose loved ones they killed, will, one day, no doubt give their own account.

http://www.somalitalk.com/editorial/riyale.html

You talk about justice and you wonder why people laugh at you and call out your hypocrisy. This is nothing about hypcrisy. This is about tribalism without care for the victims on any side. Well guess what?

Cali Samantar is more laandheer then any man in Somaliland having large swathes of Somalis behind him as well as the backing for friendly countries around the world.

Firstly,



1. Does Dahir Riyale reside in the USA ?



2. Do his victims reside in the USA ?


3. Do his victims intend to sue Dahir Riyaale in a US court ?



The answers are NO on all 3 questions.

Therefore, Dahir Riyaale's crimes will not be pursued at this junction.

How can one plead for Ali Samatar while he condemns Dahir Riyaale? Didn't they work for the same government?

Abdiwahab, I don't care for your attention whoring ways. This is about the nature of pursuing Somali war criminals from a comprehensive, holistic manner.

Concerning the specific Ali Samantar case, hope you know the reason the case made it to the Supreme Court is because it was dismissed both in the lower courts and the district courts. It is my guess the Jewish lobby asked the Supreme Court to pick up the appeal to finally put a nail on the head on the ruling saying foreign leaders representing governments cannot be accused in U.S. civil courts.

Well if it isn't the grand son of Siyad barre aka voltage man hey dawlad sade if riyaale is going down then a lot of your uncles have to go down as well . Because every marexaan was above general at the time we have to start from the top and work our way down.

S_lander-boy wrote:Well if it isn't the grand son of Siyad barre aka voltage man hey dawlad sade if riyaale is going down then a lot of your uncles have to go down as well . Because every marexaan was above general at the time we have to start from the top and work our way down.

So Riyale is perfectly fine not only being free but your president when he is directly implicated by another Isaaq (Rakiya)?

Perfectly find right?

Voltage,

You express sheer intellectual laziness. I am sure if you were tortured that you would file a claim. Unfortunately, you can not empathize with someone who suffered torture solely because of tribalism.

I guess you forgot to wake up and put on your "Enlightened" somali hat

Voltage wrote:

S_lander-boy wrote:Well if it isn't the grand son of Siyad barre aka voltage man hey dawlad sade if riyaale is going down then a lot of your uncles have to go down as well . Because every marexaan was above general at the time we have to start from the top and work our way down.

So Riyale is perfectly fine not only being free but your president when he is directly implicated by another Isaaq (Rakiya)?

Perfectly find right?

Stop your divide and conquer tactics, Riyaale is our temporary president next election he is gone he was part of the former goverment but to his defence he was a janitor he didn't had the final say on matters he was just a snitch unlike Samatar he ordered killings etc etc

Slander,

Riyaale does not reside in the USA. His victims do not either. So the minute he gets to the USA, then he can be sued until then, he is a free man.

You people are making this mans tribe an issue nobody else. He was second in command to afewyne so he is directly responsibile for the state sponsored genocide against civilians in the north. This is the reason his facing american justice. As for the smokescreen argument of Riyales past actions. He was not even a captain and comparing him to the seccond in command is just silly. He was nothing but a footsoldier earning enough to put bread on his family table. Justice has to start somwhere it just so happens that this midgaan or madhibaan will be the first to feel the slow but forceful hand of justice, its such a shame its not somaliland justice.

Voltage sxb dhiig nin leh baad tahay thanks for that link, I should post that on ABC board so the fcking 20/20 can see

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Slander,

Riyaale does not reside in the USA. His victims do not either. So the minute he gets to the USA, then he can be sued until then, he is a free man.

AW

Good point, Voltage your arguments are weak and don't hold any water.

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Voltage,

You express sheer intellectual laziness. I am sure if you were tortured that you would file a claim. Unfortunately, you can not empathize with someone who suffered torture solely because of tribalism.

I guess you forgot to wake up and put on your "Enlightened" somali hat

No I guess I see a troll when I see one. It was yesterday when Qabydiid, who has admitted to killing innocent civilians, was arrested in Sweden (and I am told he cannot go back to Europe) and you were crying wolf. Not to mention you have another criminal warlord as your avitor.

SNM let me ask you this
How do you guys call your selfs freedom fighters and then Complain??? does that make a sense?

Men Up Isaaq people

Shamboo,

You didn't get it do you?

When I kill I am Mujaahid,
When somebody kills me, he is a war criminal