Isaq

[sadeboi]

I want a good reason for the creation of the SNM, something that sparked it, that was so unbearable you lot had to go to xabasho to destroy your country. What made those men want to fight against the regime. I have never came across an answer for this. Remember 1988 is when all the battles took place in Somalia, so you cannot say people were being killed and jailed, because the SNM was formed in 1982.

What was the reason the Isaq men in 1982 wanted to overthrow the country?

Who was the first to launch a military operation against the other? SNA or SNM?

[yunis09]

and would you be satisfied for ever....

[hargaysaay]

to sedeboi.

sxb waan ogahay inaad muwaadin soomaalida jecel tahy laakiin khaladku waxa weeyaan ma qirsanid in siyaad bare khaladaad iyo cadaalad daro galy intuu xilka hayey, siyaad bare dagaalkii 1977 reerka soomaaliyeed ee sida hooga ah uga qayb galay gacan libaaxna ka qaatay waa isaaqa xamar marka la joogo waxa la odhan jiray dagaalkii amxaarada iyo qaldaamiintii xaguu marayaa, ta labaad soomaliya oo laba dal ah reer somaliland waa kuwii intay calankoodii buluuga ahaa ee aad maanta ku faantaan soo qaatay ee xamar iduunku yimid abaalkaana siyaad bare wuxuu noogu badalay cadaadis iyo cadaalad daro isagoo soomaalida kale oo dhan adeegsanaya, ma ogtahy markii walaaladiinii ogaadeen itoobiya ka soo qaxeen in cida kaliya ee soo dhaweysay ee ay dhulkooda dageen tahay isaaq, ma ogtahay in siyaad markii 1988kii isaaq u qaxeen itoobiya inuu damacsanaa inuu dhulka reeer sheekh isxaaq ee hargeysa berbera burco ceerigaabo uu damacsanaa inuu ogaadeen oromo iyo daaroodka kale dajiyo,

hadaba reer sheekh isxaaq soomali oo dhan aya isugu tagtay, quwadii dawladii siyaad bare oo dhan nimankii hadh cad afka gashaday waa snm iyo isaaq usc iyo waxaas gabigoodaba 1989kii aya la aasaasay hubkay xamar ku soo galeen snm baa siisay.

markaa ugu dambayntii isaaq haday nabad noqoto dad ka nabad iyo derisnimo wanaagsan ma jiro haday dagaal iyo xabad noqotana dad ka halaagsan oo ka cadaabsan ma jiro,
markii dawlada siyaad ciidamadeedii xuduudka jabuuti orodka ku galeen, ayay CIISIHII jabuuti yaabeen ilaa hadana isaaqa waxay u yaqaanaan naari

[GENERAL_SNM]

The thing is sxb your looking at the SNM as if it was a big bang theory. Nothing here one day and bang its here the next. Then your question would be justified and a suitable answer would be found. So to make it as simple as can be the SNM was a fluid movement that was their to lend a voice to the marginalized Isaaq. You have to remember the SNMs birth coincides with the regimes embrace of MOD and boli qaran. The SNM was a political party, however the dictators over reaction against all Isaaq civilians. The armies choosing off a certain nomad group against another simply because of qabil all lead to the SNM being popular and it reached a stage were picking up arms to defend yourself was the only option. So the reason why SNM was formed are many and veried it represented the average Isaaqs wishes to be treated as equal and not as second class citizen. In the end the regime was shown to the whole world as what it really was. A disgraceful qabilist monster whos death would be missed by a few selfish individuals. Its a shame somalinimo had to die with it. So sxb forget this nonsense about ethiopian supplied bull. If your brother is trying to kill you who gives you a weapon to defend yourself doesn't matter.

Ps, anigu I knw what Im talking about my father did time in madheera for no reason except he was a Isaaq businessman.

[yunis09]

war abti dadkan will never be satisfied so ha isku xiijinin

[GENERAL_SNM]

war abti dadkan will never be satisfied so ha isku xiijinin

I know I'm preaching to the deaf but I'm a strong believer in, the glass is half full school of thought.

[The_Emperior5]

The biggest reason of the formation of The SNM started after the 1977 wars When The Somali Ethios Were fighting Isaaq nomads in Ethiopia. Armed and supported by the The so called Somali government.The isaaq People needed to protect their people and land I mean the isaaq people Somalis From Somaliland the so called goverment favoured Their Ethio Darods over the The citizens of the somali rep thats were the biggest clash started Back then there was already ah A rebel movement ssdf But it was not An isaaq Rebel group even though the first chairman of the ssdf was An isaaq Mustafa xaji nur, Mustafa xaji nur later was replaced by Abdilahi yusuf axmed, Isaaq knew they could not share a jabhad With Jebertis because they had a different agenda politically and ethnically it didn’t work at it became true because the ssdf surrendered in 1986 Wana la qaramaye.

A group of isaaq Emigrants In Saudi Arabia In Jeddah formed the snm and later it was announced In the united Kingdom In London , The second reason besides the Persecution of the isaaqs. was the Total neglecting of the Somaliland provinces , I mean when the SNM was formed was in 1981 that’s 21 years after independence , The Somaliland people remember the Coupe in 1961 and how it failed , This was their second attempt , And this time it had be successful, And after the creation of SNM that’s when the First isaaq officials started deserting , Whether it were Government Members or Military officials

[hargaysaay]

do you know the first army of snm talaabay inay ahayeen 4aad mainly jibriil abokor led by mohamed cali, back then nickname of jibriil abokor was jibriil garxajis

[yunis09]

abti that only applies to the reasonable and the wise....
if i was to ask them why were most of my male relatives who were 14+ were either in hiding from the gov or smuggled out of the country as early as 84?
i bet a score they will say it was the snm's fault.

[sadeboi]

So far the only person to give me some sort of answer was Emprior, he said after the 1977 war the Somali government helped out Jaberti over Isaq during their battles in the Hawd. Btw, emprior, when exactly did this happen, and was this one of the reasons the SNM was formed? The rest of you presented how their was mistreatment, but none of you gave me any detailed information what so ever, how was the northern Isaq treated less then the rest of Somalis prior to 1982 during the revolutionary era that led to formation of the SNM? Can anyone give me an insight to this, so I can understand, because "cadaalda darro ba jirtey" is quite simple and there is no further explanation what so ever.

Also, does anyone have the SNM charter, or know where we can find it, because I would love the actual reasoning and facts they had.

[sadeboi]

The thing is sxb your looking at the SNM as if it was a big bang theory. Nothing here one day and bang its here the next. Then your question would be justified and a suitable answer would be found. So to make it as simple as can be the SNM was a fluid movement that was their to lend a voice to the marginalized Isaaq. You have to remember the SNMs birth coincides with the regimes embrace of MOD and boli qaran. The SNM was a political party, however the dictators over reaction against all Isaaq civilians. The armies choosing off a certain nomad group against another simply because of qabil all lead to the SNM being popular and it reached a stage were picking up arms to defend yourself was the only option. So the reason why SNM was formed are many and veried it represented the average Isaaqs wishes to be treated as equal and not as second class citizen. In the end the regime was shown to the whole world as what it really was. A disgraceful qabilist monster whos death would be missed by a few selfish individuals. Its a shame somalinimo had to die with it. So sxb forget this nonsense about ethiopian supplied bull. If your brother is trying to kill you who gives you a weapon to defend yourself doesn't matter.

Ps, anigu I knw what Im talking about my father did time in madheera for no reason except he was a Isaaq businessman.

Did the SNM launch the military operation first or did the government, because if the government did then this is reasonable

[senoritaa]

Sadeboi,

The SNM had a constitution, I don't know if it is available online but I have read parts of it in a book. Their aim was to restore democracy and representative government to the whole of Somalia.

[abdikarim86]

Sadeboi,

The SNM had a constitution, I don't know if it is available online but I have read parts of it in a book. Their aim was to restore democracy and representative government to the whole of Somalia.

i thought SNM was to to liberate s/land and protect nomads in and around awaare/gaashaamo

[sadeboi]

Sadeboi,

The SNM had a constitution, I don't know if it is available online but I have read parts of it in a book. Their aim was to restore democracy and representative government to the whole of Somalia.

i thought SNM was to to liberate s/land and protect nomads in and around awaare/gaashaamo

Everyone has a different reason.

Senoritaa, what books?

[The_Emperior5]

Abdikarim that to but they also wanted a fair elected government for Somalia for the people by the people. That why they also worked with the usc and spm.