The Events of 1992

[surrender]

The events in Somalia in 1992, When the UN and US troops entered Somalia, what did happen, can anyone tell me the details? and not the Black Hawk Down version.

We had discussion about this today, you might not believe it but Somalia was the hot topic, the module topic was about ‘just war’ and humanitarian intervention came up, in it, the events in Somalia came up.

One guy, liberal minded, doesn’t care much about religion, race or culture, open minded I would call him, therefore I didn’t consider his comment as racist or prejudice, said that UN & US troops did really want to help Somalia at that time, they really wanted to protect ‘the innocent’ Somalis, but the Somali rebels reacted badly to this and that’s when all the problems occurred.
Is this true?

Do any of you have the detail of this event?

Were any of you there at that time (god forbid)?

[AbdiWahab252]

It was the worst decision ever. The invasion prolonged the Somali civil war which would have concluded in 1993 at the latest. In early and mid 1992 the largest and final battles were fought and there were clear winners and losers in the conflict. All sides were more open to reaching a settlement before the invasion which caused the weaker parties to refuse a settlement in the hopes that the invasion would weaken the stronger parties.

So the invasion helped prolong the demise of SOmalia for another 18 years.

[grandpakhalif]

General Aided and his minions attack the Americans trying to help out the starven Somalis in Bakool and Bay 300,000 somalis dead this was truly genocide, these somalis died because of aided's actions becuase of the failure of humanitarian aid, Aided caused starvation of many somalis

[Moguul21]

There are two version?

Do you want Hawiye versior or Darod version?

If you want our version make a topic at PUG i would be more then happy to reply to you

[AbdiWahab252]

Gran,

Aidid (AUN) did not attack anyone, it was he who was attacked and maligned by the invaders & their Somali lackies.

[Moguul21]

It was the worst decision ever. The invasion prolonged the Somali civil war which would have concluded in 1993 at the latest. In early and mid 1992 the largest and final battles were fought and there were clear winners and losers in the conflict. All sides were more open to reaching a settlement before the invasion which caused the weaker parties to refuse a settlement in the hopes that the invasion would weaken the stronger parties.

So the invasion helped prolong the demise of SOmalia for another 18 years.

This is the habergidir/Sacad/general aidid supporters version

[surrender]

Gran,

Aidid (AUN) did not attack anyone, it was he who was attacked and maligned by the invaders & their Somali lackies.

Caydiid is dead?

[oldenglish]

The events in Somalia in 1992, When the UN and US troops entered Somalia, what did happen, can anyone tell me the details? and not the Black Hawk Down version.

We had discussion about this today, you might not believe it but Somalia was the hot topic, the module topic was about ‘just war’ and humanitarian intervention came up, in it, the events in Somalia came up.

One guy, liberal minded, doesn’t care much about religion, race or culture, open minded I would call him, therefore I didn’t consider his comment as racist or prejudice, said that UN & US troops did really want to help Somalia at that time, they really wanted to protect ‘the innocent’ Somalis, but the Somali rebels reacted badly to this and that’s when all the problems occurred.
Is this true?

Do any of you have the detail of this event?

Were any of you there at that time (god forbid)?

We well the truth is pretty clear.

Like the Burcaad, the Hawiye animals of Xamar led by rag tag militias shot at the Hawk took it down and thats. THE END.

Nothing special, NO ONE IS INNOCENT left in XAMAR during 90-94 all of them are cold blooded killers. Thats reality no liberal can analyze Xamars condition, hijacking the rest of Somalia, without honestly assessing the human condition of the Hawiye people throughout Somalia-Somali-Arab Darood- history.

This, Hawiyes and Xamar are no different than RWANDA, except we haven't conditioned Somali's-International to think of it that way.

[grandpakhalif]

Gran,

Aidid (AUN) did not attack anyone, it was he who was attacked and maligned by the invaders & their Somali lackies.

Take your USC bullshit to someone that believes it. Aided is a criminal, i met his nephew though he is a very good guy and one of my good friends

[grandpakhalif]

Gran,

Aidid (AUN) did not attack anyone, it was he who was attacked and maligned by the invaders & their Somali lackies.

Caydiid is dead?

Shotdead by his own bodygaurd

[surrender]

General Aided and his minions attack the Americans trying to help out the starven Somalis in Bakool and Bay 300,000 somalis dead this was truly genocide, these somalis died because of aided's actions becuase of the failure of humanitarian aid, Aided caused starvation of many somalis

see thats what i thought too, untill the cadaan guy said the samething and i thought this cant be right, this is another typical cadaan propaganda.

[AbdiWahab252]

Surrender,

The intervention was a total disaster. Every "humanitarian" intervention doesn't bring peace but simply defers the war for another time or makes things even worse.

Look at Bosnia, if the UN/EU forces left tomorrow, the country would be at war. Look at the DRC, Sudan etc.

[Dionysus]

It was the worst decision ever. The invasion prolonged the Somali civil war which would have concluded in 1993 at the latest. In early and mid 1992 the largest and final battles were fought and there were clear winners and losers in the conflict. All sides were more open to reaching a settlement before the invasion which caused the weaker parties to refuse a settlement in the hopes that the invasion would weaken the stronger parties.

So the invasion helped prolong the demise of SOmalia for another 18 years.

You completely ignored the question she asked and went on to talk about how the consequences of the 'invasion' were disastrous as if that is what she wanted to know. The fact that you use the word 'invasion' already implies that you did not see it as a humanitarian mission. So my question to you Abdiwahab is, what do you believe was the real reason for America and its little biitches to go into Somalia? Were they were genuinely there trying to help feed the Somalis or were they there for another reason?

[surrender]

I’m with you on this one Abdiwahab, when is humanitarian intervention really a humanitarian intervention horta? They all have political agenda for intervening, not because they solely care about the poor individuals, and anyway the UN and coalition forces commit more war crimes than the ‘rebels’

[AbdiWahab252]

Dionysus,

It was the era of the "New World Order" and it seemed like a popular thing for the UN/US to flex their muscles in the post USSR world. It was also good politics for the Bush Administration at the time to help out as it was popular with the American public. Yet the conditions on the ground did not warrant an military intervention as food believe it or not was getting through as best as it could in a civil war environment.

The situation on the ground did not warrant an invasion which was used by the weaker parties to settle scores that they had failed to deal during the 1992 civil war. If the invasion had not occured, a peace deal would have been made by the end of 1992 because all sides would have seen it in their interests: the weaker parties would be out of military options, the victors would want to secure their wins, and in the end all sides would have benefited.