Beesha Awdal Oo Aanu Raali Gelin Caleema Saarkii Ugaaska Bee

[Siciid85]

Beesha Awdal Oo Aanu Raali Gelin Caleema Saarkii Ugaaska Beesha Ciise Lagu Caleemo Saaray Magaalada Saylac, Nala Daawada Xaflad Arintaa Ku Saabsan Oo Ka Dhacday London(Video).

[The_Emperior5]

They can cry what ever they want Ugaaska Ciise Wa xaq ina lugu caleemo saaro Gobolka Selel. It was Caleemo saarki of the Century Ma gadabuur ba loo joojinaya

[Siciid85]

They can cry what ever they want Ugaaska Ciise Wa xaq ina lugu caleemo saaro Gobolka Selel. It was Caleemo saarki of the Century Ma gadabuur ba loo joojinaya

The issue about seylac is bit complicated, i though some samaroons were cool with it but it seems even their ugaas is against it, check the comments out by the way.

[The_Emperior5]

They can cry what ever they want Ugaaska Ciise Wa xaq ina lugu caleemo saaro Gobolka Selel. It was Caleemo saarki of the Century Ma gadabuur ba loo joojinaya

The issue about seylac is bit complicated, i though some samaroons were cool with it but it seems even their ugaas is against it, check the comments out by the way.

Yeah i saw it they think ciisaha ka qaadaya seylac we all know Gobolka Selel Dee Reerka Ciisaha leh Gadabuursiguna adhigooda ayey keeni jiireen, but yeah the caleemo saar is just dhaqan i dont see why they are so upset.

[Siciid85]

Emperior, maybe they are upset because one of their own (Riyaale) is behind this plot to resettle the cisse in seylac in large numbers.

[The_Emperior5]

Emperior, maybe they are upset because one of their own (Riyaale) is behind this plot to resettle the cisse in seylac in large numbers.

yes the governer of today selle seylac is Ciise Thank you rayaale

[AwdalPrince]

Salal is part of Awdal and its a maxamed casse deygaan. Nobody can argue against that fact.

Siciidow read this report by the United Nations that shows how the ciise migrated to Awdal with their cattle:

"The FSAU Livestock Consultant and accompanying FSAU assessment
team visited Awdal between 19 – 24 February 2003. Following
discussions with the Issa (from Ethiopia) and Gadabursi (local
inhabitants) livestock owners and local leaders in Gerissa, Xariradd,
Jidhi,Karuure, Ceel Gal, Zeyla, Lughaye, Kalalwe and Osooli, the
assessment team concluded the following :
1. An estimated 5,000-7,000 Issa households have migrated into the
Awdal region from Shinile and other parts of Ethiopia Region V.
2. Local livestock (mainly camels and small stock) belonging to the
Gadabursi are in good condition and some have calved/kidded/
lambed and are providing milk.
3. Some of the Issa have come with families, but many are just young
and old men with the cattle.
4. A few Issa households have moved with camels and smallstock,
but most have moved only with cattle.
5. Some Issa claim to have lost 50% of their cattle whilst migrating
and their cattle are extremely thin and in poor condition.
At the end of December/January the area received scattered late
hais rains, heavy enough to bring into leaf the browse plant species
and perennial grasses but not enough to generate significant growth
of annual grasses. Forage conditions for browsers are generally fair
to good; grazing for cattle is poor and will be exhausted by middle to
late March. Browse will last for another 4-6 weeks. It is unlikely that
more rain will fall in the Guban coastal belt in which case the local
residents will take their normal migration route to the highlands (Baki
district). The Issa from Ethiopia may have to follow this route too, but
it would be a new precedent as they would normally return to
Ethiopia as the rains are expected there in March/April.
Since February conditions have likely improved for those with goats
and camels – mainly the local Gadabursi and a few of the Issa from
Ethiopia. Conditions will have deteriorated for the cattle owners –
mainly the Issa cattle owners from Ethiopia.
Shoats
If rains fail in Ethiopia in March then the Issa will be in an extremely
precarious situation that will quickly destroy their livelihoods unless
external interventions are provided. If March rains fail in the
highlands of Somaliland then the Gadabursi will also suffer but they
may be able to move into Ethiopia depending on rains there.
The FSAU assessment team also found that competition for grazing
between species is not too serious at the moment as most Issa came
with cattle and not camels or smallstock, while local Gadabursi are
mainly camel and smallstock owners. The Issa migrants are finding it
hard to access credit as they are not well known in the area and guns
are being used as collateral or as a guarantee with traders. Remit-
tances increased but are stretched to maximum."

Source: Food Security Assesment Unit
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWFiles2003 ... -12mar.pdf

If Ciise always lived there, then why are they called migrants and the Gadabursi local?

Emperior most people dont care what you say because you never show any evidence for your claims. Just marfish talk.

[AwdalPrince]

More evidence that Ciise who live in Saylac and Awdal region are not native:

Read this:

Guerissa Region sees combat
The Indian Ocean Newsletter, No. 657, 4 February 1995According to information obtained by The Indian Ocean Newsletter, Issa militia controlling the zone around Zeila and Guerissa in western Somaliland, close to the frontier with Djibouti, were attacked by Samerone (Gadaboursi) troops on the afternoon of January 27, and their positions in Guerissa (the birthplace of Djibouti head of state Hassan Gouled, lying some 80 km east of Djibouti between Borama and El Gal) were overrun by the attackers. The Mohamed Ace subclan of Gadaboursi, whose members live near Somaliland’s coastline, has for some time now been at war with Issas in this region. Last week’s attack took the Issa militia by surprise while they were in a rest area, and reports say there were a number of dead and wounded. The first men to be wounded were evacuated to Djibouti during the night of January 29-30: Osman Daher Hadji Hussein (20 years old, gunshot wound in the right leg), Daher Himet Omar (20 years old, gunshot wound in right thigh), and Xeyleh Hussein Elmi (15 years old). About one hundred of the defenders of Guerissa took to their heels and are now believed to be holed up in the bush not far from their former positions, where the attackers were able to recover food and personal belongings.


Indian Ocean Newsletter has reported that Djibouti officially recognized Somaliland following a mission to Hargeisa headed by Djama Mahamoud Haid, governor of the Central Bank. This was not independently confirmed by other press services. A large delegation of Issaq from Djibouti went to Somaliland and presented President Egal with the results of meetings between Issaq and Issa of Djibouti. The meetings outlined an agreement by which the Djibouti government undertook to officially recognize Somaliland. In return, Somaliland undertook to collaborate in the repatriation of some 20,000 Issa refugees living in Djibouti. Somaliland then openend its first diplomatice mission abroad. Members of the Gadaboursi subclan protested to the Vice President, also of this subclan, against the Issa refugees being settled in Somaliland along the Djibouti frontier. To quiet the protests, Issa dignitaries in Djibouti are believed to have promised to the largest Gadaboursi group, the Mohamed Assi) a government ministerial post presently held by a Gadaboursi belonging to the Makahil clan.

Source: http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/33/112.html
http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/mar/chronology ... upId=52001

Need I say more or is this just gudubuur propaganda again who inspired the white man to make this report?

[Siciid85]

Awdalprince, if that is true then why don't the gadabursis fight the enroachment on their lands? are they just going to watch and let it happen.

[AwdalPrince]

Awdalprince, if that is true then why don't the gadabursis fight the enroachment on their lands? are they just going to watch and let it happen.

We already fought against the Ciise and defeated them TWICE. Read this report by the Somaliland Government:

"After the fall of the Barre regime, the clan cleavage and dispute over territory which reached pitch fever had brought the ‘Iise and Gadabursi, later the ‘Iise and the SNM, into armed conflict. The fall of the regime and the chaos in Somaliland encouraged ‘Iise return to their traditional areas of settlement or, as some bluntly put, Djibouti authorities’ policy of expansion into Somaliland. In 1994, ‘Iise fighters under the banner of United Somali Front (USF), no doubt backed by the Djibouti Government, launched attacks and capture Zeila. They also advanced and occupied ‘Abdulqaadir, Jidhi, and Geerisa hamlets.

These attacks took the Gadabursi and the Isaaq by surprise. The Gadabursi had their hands full with conflicts within Somaliland and with the peace initiatives they spearheaded. Nonetheless, the Gadabursi rallied support and organized their clan militia. When the first reprisals started at Geerisa, the Government of Somaliland reinforced the Gadabursi militia with 300 soldiers. The joint forces pushed the ‘Iise invaders. Again in 1995, the Iise fighters attacked again. Later that year, a reconciliation meeting called Mubaarik was organized between the Gadabursi and ‘Iise at Geerisa. The meeting took three months but failed to resolve the conflict. Nonetheless, the conflict subsided and an easy truce continued."

Source: RUIN AND RENEWAL: THE STORY OF SOMALIALND
Prepared by
THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE SOLUTIONS
Hargeisa, Somaliland
May 31, 2004

http://www.mbali.info/doc124.htm

[AwdalPrince]

Siciidow the problem today is different. Its not warfare, we can easily defeat them if they come to fight laakin the problem is they figured out the only way they can take Saylac is by political bitching, not fighting.

Your Suldaan Emperior claims to love Somaliland yet he supports those who woud supposedly steal "Somaliland" territory. Is that not treason Siciidow? Nifaaq is ugly, just yesterday he was accusing Hargeysaay of being pro Somaliweyn yet he is advocating reer Jiboutis to steal Somaliland territory

How ironic

[abdikarim86]

interesting

[The_Emperior5]

Siciidow the problem today is different. Its not warfare, we can easily defeat them if they come to fight laakin the problem is they figured out the only way they can take Saylac is by political bitching, not fighting.

Your Suldaan Emperior claims to love Somaliland yet he supports those who woud supposedly steal "Somaliland" territory. Is that not treason Siciidow? Nifaaq is ugly, just yesterday he was accusing Hargeysaay of being pro Somaliweyn yet he is advocating reer Jiboutis to steal Somaliland territory

How ironic

No i dont believe the ciises will Steal Land of somaliland laakin its their land with in Somaliland thats all my friend

[AwdalPrince]

Siciidow the problem today is different. Its not warfare, we can easily defeat them if they come to fight laakin the problem is they figured out the only way they can take Saylac is by political bitching, not fighting.

Your Suldaan Emperior claims to love Somaliland yet he supports those who woud supposedly steal "Somaliland" territory. Is that not treason Siciidow? Nifaaq is ugly, just yesterday he was accusing Hargeysaay of being pro Somaliweyn yet he is advocating reer Jiboutis to steal Somaliland territory

How ironic

No i dont believe the ciises will Steal Land of somaliland laakin its their land with in Somaliland thats all my friend

Where is your evidence apart from what you heard in the marfash?

[The_Emperior5]

So are u telling there are no ciises in Seylac eeh meesha cidi kama joogto