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Is it racism or just politics in the ancient world?

Just blatant racism :


Egyptians VS Central Africans Sudanese


Ramses II VS the Hitties (Turks)


Egyptians VS the Hitties (Turks)

NO THEY WEREN'T THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN IDEA OF RACE SINCE THEY TREATED EVERY ENEMY THE SAME

Ofcourse, they were!

That's not racism, they were drawing caricatures of their arch enemies.

Racism as we know it didn't begin until the 1700s when the Whites made it policy. The world had no idea of the concept of race until that time.

RACE DIDN'T BECOME A CONCEPT UNTIL AROUND THE TIME OF THE SPANISH CONQUEST OF SPAIN FROM
THE MOORS WHICH THEY GOT FROM THE ARABS SO BASICALLY RACISM IS FROM THE ARABS

The world did exist before 1700s and the people of the day are pretty much the same the people of yesterday. Ancient egyptians were quite racist towards the Jews and any foreigners. Pre-islamic arabic was quite racist to anything black. Blacks also are/were quite racist to one anothers. Same bull.shit.


Its just the point of views towards a certain concept that is being evolved throught out time.

Hitites were not Turks & The other ones were Nubians/Kush not Central Africans..

The Ancient Egyptains are showing off their Might its Propoganda it has nothing to do with Racism.

Nubians/Kush ruled Egypt at one point..

PLEASE READ ABOUT THE TRAVELER IBN BATTUTA AND WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BLACKS IT WAS QUITE RACIST TO ME AND THAT WAS WAY BEFORE 1700

Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331

"The geographer al-Idrisi ascribes 'lack of knowledge and defective minds' to the black peoples. Their ignorance, he says, is notorious; men of learning and distinction are almost unknown among them, and their kings only acquire what they know about government and justice from the instruction of learned visitors from farther north."

Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament."

Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity" "Their nature is that of wild animals...."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions."


Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331

"They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times -- even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate... Most of them go naked... In all their lands and provinces, gold is found.... They are people distant from the standards of humanity."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth,--in no other peculiarity or property,--except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Battuta

Navy9 wrote:The world did exist before 1700s and the people of the day are pretty much the same the people of yesterday. Ancient egyptians were quite racist towards the Jews and any foreigners. Pre-islamic arabic was quite racist to anything black. Blacks also are/were quite racist to one anothers. Same bull.shit.


Its just the point of views towards a certain concept that is being evolved throught out time.

Racism is a modern concept introduced in the 1700s, fact. Take a class on race, I have. There is no record of racism from those days, obviously people acknowledged that certain people looked different but they didn't even know why and didn't bother to discriminate unless it was a political strategy and not just for the sake of being discriminatory.

Accept the fact that Whites created racism in the last 300 years and move on.

PLEASE READ ABOUT THE TRAVELER IBN BATTUTA AND WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BLACKS IT WAS QUITE RACIST TO ME AND THAT WAS WAY BEFORE 1700

That is not racism! Racism is the actual discrimination and destruction of people based on a set of physical markers. Ibn Battuta made the same observation that even YOU would make if I dropped you off in the middle of the Congo. Racism also includes attributes of de-humanization, Ibn Battuta clearly refers to them as part of mankind and part of the human family, he is just writing his scolding observation of a very backward people and at the time it is all he saw in the Zanj.

Notice how Ancient Egyptians were Brownish people



Stupid African Americans/West Africans (Blacks) and Europeans (Whites) trying to claim them

dawwa9 wrote:Notice how Ancient Egyptians were Brownish people



Stupid African Americans/West Africans (Blacks) and Europeans (Whites) trying to claim them

They had a semitic look, between Libyans and Palestinians, as geography would dictate obviously.

Funny thing is, some Egyptians look straight up Arab (VAST majority) and you can't tell which those are, but when for the Egyptians who have the pure look, I can spot them from any other Arab and I'm always right. For the record, they have big mouths, large faces and jaw width, chinky eyes. Those ones who have those distinct looks are what I imagine the pharaohs to have looked like. Their current president is a really good example, so was Nasser.

Ibn Khaldun

BODHI wrote:PLEASE READ ABOUT THE TRAVELER IBN BATTUTA AND WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BLACKS IT WAS QUITE RACIST TO ME AND THAT WAS WAY BEFORE 1700

Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331

"The geographer al-Idrisi ascribes 'lack of knowledge and defective minds' to the black peoples. Their ignorance, he says, is notorious; men of learning and distinction are almost unknown among them, and their kings only acquire what they know about government and justice from the instruction of learned visitors from farther north."

Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament."

Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity" "Their nature is that of wild animals...."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions."


Ibn Battuta, A.D. 1331

"They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times -- even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate... Most of them go naked... In all their lands and provinces, gold is found.... They are people distant from the standards of humanity."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence."


Ibn Battuta, 14th century

"If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth,--in no other peculiarity or property,--except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Battuta

acctually most of this racist qoutes is not from ibn battuta, its from Ibn Khaldun who said this thinks about black people

We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions

ibn battuta he wrote acctually wrote many positive comments on black people laakiin IBN KHALDUUN ayaa ah biggest racisist ever.

dawwa9 wrote:Notice how Ancient Egyptians were Brownish people



Stupid African Americans/West Africans (Blacks) and Europeans (Whites) trying to claim them

naayaa DAWWA shame on you NAAGTAN ma xishooto . WHAT HELL DO U MEAN brownish??

what colour do black african have??

yes brown like a chocklat, and yes ancian egypty was a black people look the picture that they are fighting agains ancian turks how different skinn colour they have.

naayaaa inkaari kuugu dhacdee ANCIAN EGTPTY DAD MADMADOOW ah haka dhigin ASIAN CARAB AMA WAX aan aheeyn madoow,

paidmonk wrote:

Racism is a modern concept introduced in the 1700s, fact. Take a class on race, I have.

So, you took a class on race, impressive, well done kido.

DR-YALAXOOW,

Ancient Egyptians didn't look like Bantus.....but something like this:

Beja - North East Sudan