Somali clan population in 1890

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Somali clan population in 1890

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Majerteen - 104,000
Issa - 70,000
Gadabursi - 25,000
Habar Awal - 50,000


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http://books.google.com/books?id=obA9AA ... on&f=false
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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Interesting so habarawal was twice the seize of Gadabuursi 100 years ago
Do you have all the other clans also is this with in Somali borders or also Ethiopia.
Paid were you looking for Merehaan population :lol:
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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Where have all those Issas gone,that's what I wanna know
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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These are totals for Somalis in all of the colonial territories including Hawd, Ogadenia, British and Italian Somaliland, even Djibouti.
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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I Wonder What The Populations Are Today...

BTW... Marehan Was Probably A Bit Bigger Than Majeerteen Back Then.
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Rooble90 wrote:I Wonder What The Populations Are Today...

BTW... Marehan Was Probably A Bit Bigger Than Majeerteen Back Then.
You're funny.

Majerteen and Ciisa are the largest clans reported and historically Majerteen, Cissa, and Ogaden were the largest Somali clans, Marehan were the same size or a bit smaller than Habar Awal is my guess. Marehan were almost unheard of in the early colonial era.
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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paidmonk wrote:
Rooble90 wrote:I Wonder What The Populations Are Today...

BTW... Marehan Was Probably A Bit Bigger Than Majeerteen Back Then.
You're funny.

Majerteen and Ciisa are the largest clans reported and historically Majerteen, Cissa, and Ogaden were the largest Somali clans, Marehan were the same size or a bit smaller than Habar Awal is my guess.

I Read In An Article That In 1920 The Marexaan Population In Trans-Jubba (Jubbaland) was 90,000

Add Another 40,000 In Gobolada Dhexe, And That Add's Up To 130,000 :clap:

Forget About The Ones In Ethiopia 8-)
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By the way, the total Somali population in 1890 was 1,000,000.

If Majerteen were 104,000, Cissa wee 70,000, those two clans alone account for nearly 20% of the Somali people, there is only space for few other clans and you think Marehan are another huge block, where does that leave the rest of the Somali population? Lets get real, only Majerteen, Ciisa and Ogaden were renowned for their large numbers.
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THREAT ALERT..THE LINK GIVING IN THIS POST HAS BEEN PROVING THAT THE DATA SHOWN IN HERE IS NON EXISTANT...

http://books.google.com/books?id=obA9AA ... on&f=false

paidmonk, if you're trying to glorify majerteen at least come out with something concrete

kulaha majerdeen are know to be the largest clan...WTF?? :mrgreen: ..garowe their capital is only 36 000 people maarkasu leeyahay majerdeen are big, large and repectable clan...
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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paidmonk wrote:Marehan were almost unheard of in the early colonial era.
Yet there is more written information about Marehan from 1500 to the colonial period than Majeerteen and hell most other clans? Strong logic.

Marehan were not domicile colonial goons. Here is a Majeerteen website talking about an attempt to count Marehan as if anyone held sovereignty over them and our leadership responding with war:
Sheekooyinka xiisaha leh oo inoo tilmaamaya urursanaanta qabiilka, waxaa kamid ah tii dhexmartay Ugaas Maxamuud Dhoore oo u dhashey beesha Mareexaan iyo sarkaal talyaani ah oo masuul looga dhigay degaanka waqooyiga Juba. Sarkaalku mar uu damcay in uu tiriyo geela beelaha Mareexaan ee ku dhaqan gobolka Gedo, ugaaska ayaa ka diiday oo ku yiri :

" Geela Mareexaan oo aad tirokoobtaa waxaa kaa xiga xusulkaaga oo aad leeftaa ".

Sarkaalka oo aanan dareensanayn in xusulka aanan la leefi karin ayaa isku dayay in uu xusulkiisii leefo, markuu carrabka la gaari waayay ayuu ugaaskii la hadlay oo uu ku yiri :

" Haddii aan cududda jebiyo, markaas xusulka carrabka waan la gaarayaa ".

Ugaaskii : " Taas macnaheeda sow maahan in dhibaato faraha lala galo ".

Sarkaalkii : " Haa ".

Ugaaskii : " Dhibaatadaas ayaa kaa xigta geelayaga oo aad tirisaa ".

Beelihii Mareexaan waxay ku shireen meel la yiraahdo Yaaq, halkaas oo ay ku guddoonsadeen in ay muddo 24 saacadood ah ay geelooda ka tallaabiyaan xuduudda. Dhacdadaas waxaa loo yaqaan Seero Goys. Talyaanigii wuxuu la yaabay sida fudud oo ay isu ururiyeen iyo degdegta ay go´aanka ku fuliyeen.

Sir. Kirk oo ahaa qunsul u fadhiyay dowladda Ingiriiska jasiiradda Sensibaar xilligii uu gumeysiga inoo imanayay, ayaa waraaq uu Soomaalida kaga hadlayay wuxuu ku qoray sidan :

" Soomaalida ku nool koonfrta Soomaaliya waxay la dhaqan yihiin kuwa waqooyiga deggan. Waa dad urursan, dagaal yahanno ah geesinimona u dheertahay oo islawayn. Sidaa darteed waa howl adag in aanu ka dhaadhicinno in aanu nahay dad ka sarreeya ". (Kirk to Granville. dispatch No. 18. January 17. 1885).

Sida uu qunsulku sheegay, qabiilku waa urur-bulshadeed xoog leh oo ay beeluhu isaga war-qabaan. Waxaa kale oo nadaamka qabiilku uu xambaarsanaa aragti isla weyni ah, taas oo qofku uu ku ilaalinayo sharafta beesha, isaguna uu iska ilaalinayo in uu ceeb iyo magac xumi ku kordhiyo dadka uu abtirsiinyaha la wadaago. Arrintaasi waxay ku reebtay reer miyigii Soomaaliyeed islaweyni guud oo ay beelaha Soomaaliyeed qabeen.

http://www.mudugonline.com/Qoraalo/dhulkayagii21.htm
Basically Ugaas Dhoore said to him, before you count us try to lick your elbow. The colonists said I can't, then our Ugaas said to do it you would have to break your hand and cause to yourself right? The colonist said yes and then Ugaas Dhoore said that will happen before you try to act as if you control me. :clap: :clap:
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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how the fuck can majeerteen be biger then HA are we in fantasy land, the biggest majerten subclan is maxamuud salebaan and I swear that ciise muuse a subclan of HA is bigger then maxamud saleban, forget about sacad muuse which is the biger part of HA

this is pure buuuuuuuuuuuulshiiiiiiiiit :down:
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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I qam interested to see population size of aBgaal, HG, ogaadeen, marexan, and the rest of Isaaq,

then we can know who is bighest somali clan
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

Post by Cumar-Labasuul »

On the same link I found stature of somalis at that time:
Habr Awal - 6ft 2
Issa - 5ft 11
Gadibursi - 5ft 10

http://books.google.com/books?lr=&cd=17 ... =habr+awal

Also read this one the last paragraph and you will be suprised :shock:
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&cd=17 ... A&q=ogaden
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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You guys are forgetting one thing, its all just estimated. I dont think Issa is that much bigger than Gudabursi or Habr Awal
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Re: Somali clan population in 1890

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wtf, why was he googling Marehan population

war heedhe, are we in a Marehan frenzy

Marehan 130 years ago were 130,000

72,000 in Jubaland iyo 58,000 in central/north somalia

Only qabaail with big numbers can conquer other lands and Marehan iyo Ogaden were the only 2 qabaail that conquered South Somalia
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