Muslim Commentators Quoting Scripture Refuting Easter

[AbdiWahab252]

http://www.slate.com/id/2249526/pagenum/2

habib abdull
No one saw Jesus die on the cross. Several Bibles and passages say he did not die:

Bible of Barnabas: "The face of Yehuda who led the soldiers to arrest Christ was transfigured into that of Christ who had been rescued by the Angels through the window to the third Heaven."
Also the Bibles of Basilidains, Docetae, The Marcionite Gospel.

Would a compassionate, forgiving, merciful God allow his anointed Jesus to die??

* To say he was sacrificed for us, opposes the Bible's teachings (Hosea6:6) and (Matthew 9:13 and 12:7).

* To say he died on the cross, discredits his prophethood (Deuteronomy 13:5) and (21:22-23).
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The Jews claimed they killed him to prove he was a false prophet which they still believe.
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The Koran is here to unite the Jews and Christians and to have them submit their will to God, to be Muslims.

Where is the information on sacrifice coming from?

Paul, who was a Jew and his belief in Jewish sacrifice was transported into Christianity as suggested by a renowned New Testament scholar V. Taylor "The Atonement in the New Testament Teaching." Paul developed the idea by sending letters to the Corinthians, the Romans 4:25, He told the Galatians 6:4., and Ephesians 5:2, read the history yourself. Christianity is the teaching of Paul, not Jesus.

Here belove you can watch some big mistakes in your bible...

Who are we to believe??

Jesus came to confirm the Torah, not to destroy it (Matthew 23:2-3).

While Paul abolished the teachings of the Torah (Acts 13:39).

What hour was Jesus crucified??
(Mark 15:25) It was the third hour, and they crucified him.

(John 19:14) It was the sixth hour, and he was not yet crucified

[AbdiWahab252]

Jesus Vs. Paul:

[manarab]

AbdiWahab252, did you study in a Christian school? If so, was learning the Bible compulsory?

[AbdiWahab252]

Manarab,

It is important to know about other religions. I have studied the Torah, Talmud, the Old and New Testament. I am currently reading up on Waaqefanna.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/the-inex ... igion.html

[manarab]

Manarab,

It is important to know about other religions. I have studied the Torah, Talmud, the Old and New Testament. I am currently reading up on Waaqefanna.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/the-inex ... igion.html

Is Waaqefanna based on monotheism?

[Murax]

@ Waaqfaana.


A/wahab every group believes there is a creator man, the Native Americans believed in the Great Spirit, Christians, Jews, etc. its nothing amazing about it

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

No one saw Jesus die on the cross. Several Bibles and passages say he did not die

The people saw someone die on the cross. Question is: was that person sayyiduna Jesus aleyhi salaam or someone(a companion/disciple of Jesus pbuh) who was made to look like him by Allah's will?
According to the blind in faith it was jesus pbuh!
Lakum deenakum waliya deen

[qoraxeey]

AbdiWahab252, did you study in a Christian school? If so, was learning the Bible compulsory?

[Ganjaweed]

They have closed their eyes and ears from the truth but instead worship a son, a father and a ghost all the while fiddling young boys like.....a fiddle?

[qoraxeey]

They have closed their eyes and ears from the truth but instead worship a son, a father and a ghost all the while fiddling young boys like.....a fiddle?

looooooooooool

[AbdiWahab252]

Manarab,

Yes, Waaq is the diety that is worshiped. He has no partners or associates.


Murax,

All those religions you referenced originated from the children of Ibrahim (SCW). Waaqefanna is an indegenous African religion that does have monotheism as its central core.

Some scolars state that it Zoroastrianism (Persian religion) heavily influenced Judaism which influenced Christianity. In that religion, a "Prophet" Zoroasta had a vision:

The vision of Zoroaster

When Zoroaster was thirty years old, he had a divine vision of God and his Amesha Spentas during a ritual purification rite. This vision radically transformed his view of the world, and he tried to teach this view to others. Zoroaster believed in one creator God, teaching that only one God was worthy of worship. Furthermore, some of the deities of the old religion, the Daevas (Devas in Sanskrit), appeared to delight in war and strife. Zoroaster said that these were evil spirits and were workers of Angra Mainyu, God's adversary.

Zoroaster's ideas did not take off quickly and at first he only had one convert: his cousin Maidhyoimanha.[29] The local religious authorities opposed his ideas. They felt their own faiths, power, and particularly their rituals, threatened, because Zoroaster taught against over-ritualising religious ceremonies. Many ordinary people did not like Zoroaster's downgrading of the Daevas to evil spirits. After twelve years, Zoroaster left his home to find somewhere more open to new ideas. He found such a place in the country of King Vishtaspa (in Bactria). The King and his queen, Hutosa, heard Zoroaster debating with the religious leaders of his land, and decided to accept Zoroaster's ideas and made them the official religion of their kingdom. Zoroaster died in his late 70s. Very little is known of the time between Zoroaster and the Archaemenian period except that during this period Zoroastrianism spread to Western Iran. By the time of the founding of the Archaemenian Empire, Zoroastrianism was already a well-established religion.

Concept of MONOTHEISM:

Ahura Mazda is the beginning and the end, the creator of everything which can and cannot be seen, the Eternal, the Pure and the only Truth. In the Gathas, the most sacred texts of Zoroastrianism thought to have been composed by Zoroaster himself, the prophet acknowledged devotion to no other divinity besides Ahura Mazda.

[Ganjaweed]

Manarab,

Yes, Waaq is the diety that is worshiped. He has no partners or associates.


Murax,

All those religions you referenced originated from the children of Ibrahim (SCW). Waaqefanna is an indegenous African religion that does have monotheism as its central core.

Some scolars state that it Zoroastrianism (Persian religion) heavily influenced Judaism which influenced Christianity. In that religion, a "Prophet" Zoroasta had a vision:

The vision of Zoroaster

When Zoroaster was thirty years old, he had a divine vision of God and his Amesha Spentas during a ritual purification rite. This vision radically transformed his view of the world, and he tried to teach this view to others. Zoroaster believed in one creator God, teaching that only one God was worthy of worship. Furthermore, some of the deities of the old religion, the Daevas (Devas in Sanskrit), appeared to delight in war and strife. Zoroaster said that these were evil spirits and were workers of Angra Mainyu, God's adversary.

Zoroaster's ideas did not take off quickly and at first he only had one convert: his cousin Maidhyoimanha.[29] The local religious authorities opposed his ideas. They felt their own faiths, power, and particularly their rituals, threatened, because Zoroaster taught against over-ritualising religious ceremonies. Many ordinary people did not like Zoroaster's downgrading of the Daevas to evil spirits. After twelve years, Zoroaster left his home to find somewhere more open to new ideas. He found such a place in the country of King Vishtaspa (in Bactria). The King and his queen, Hutosa, heard Zoroaster debating with the religious leaders of his land, and decided to accept Zoroaster's ideas and made them the official religion of their kingdom. Zoroaster died in his late 70s. Very little is known of the time between Zoroaster and the Archaemenian period except that during this period Zoroastrianism spread to Western Iran. By the time of the founding of the Archaemenian Empire, Zoroastrianism was already a well-established religion.

Concept of MONOTHEISM:

Ahura Mazda is the beginning and the end, the creator of everything which can and cannot be seen, the Eternal, the Pure and the only Truth. In the Gathas, the most sacred texts of Zoroastrianism thought to have been composed by Zoroaster himself, the prophet acknowledged devotion to no other divinity besides Ahura Mazda.

Non-sense they worship fire, that is in noway monotheistic. They also used to worship other gods and goddesses like Mitra and Anahita.

BTW what is it with you and pagan oromo religions?

[Cirwaaq]

INTERACTIONS WITH JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY
Zoroastrian ideas have played a vital role in the development of western religious thought. Some theological concepts shared by Zoroastrianism with Judaism and Christianity are:

Belief in one supreme and loving God.

Heaven and Hell, and individual judgement.

Ultimate triumph of good over evil.

Strict moral and ethical code.

The Messiah to come for the final restoration.

The concepts of resurrection, final judgement and life everlasting.

The words "Satan", "paradise" and "amen" are of Zoroastrian origin.


The interchange of Zoroastrian thought with the Judeo-Christian ideology first took place when Cyrus the Great defeated the Assyrians and released the Jews from Babylonian captivity. They heralded Cyrus as their Messiah, as prophesied two centuries earlier in Isaiah 45:1-3. The Old Testament is replete with references to the Persian emperors Darius, Cyrus and Xerxes.

Most muslims believe that the message has been sent to every nation of people on earth.

Perhabs Waaqism was the horn of africa message unfortunately nobody recorded it... All these faiths have the use of frankincense in common and used during worship or as part of some ritual. frankincense is only found in the horn of africa and there are records of egypians attempting to take entire plants to replant in their land.

[AbdiWahab252]

Ganjaweed,

The elements are similar to the 3 other Monotheistic faiths: central character (Prophet), divine revaluation, central Deity, etc.


I have an interest in ancient Cushitic history especially ancient Somali ones. If I had the funds, I would love to document the oral history of our grandparents before they pass away. They must have a treasure trove of history.

[AbdiWahab252]

Cirwaaq,

Also do not forget that the Concept of the Trinity was borrowed from the ancient Egyptian religion:

Horus, Isis, Osiris (Isiir):