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Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:00 am
by Mad May
IFO, KENYA -- Two Islamist militants delivered an ultimatum to Zahra Allawi's daughters: marry them or die. The men were from al-Shabab, a militia linked to al-Qaeda that is fighting Somalia's U.S.-backed government. The two girls were 14 and 16.

Allawi said her neighbor in southeastern Somalia received the same command. But he swiftly married off his daughter to someone else. The next day, the fighters returned with a butcher's knife.

"They slaughtered him like a goat," she recalled.

Three hours later, she and her 10 children fled. After handing their life savings of $300 to a smuggler, they crossed into northeastern Kenya last month, joining tens of thousands of Somalis in this sprawling refugee settlement. They are the human fallout from Africa's most notorious failed state, haunted by unending conflict and a quiet U.S. counterterrorism campaign.

About 2 million Somalis, roughly one-fifth of the population, have sought refuge in other parts of their country or in neighboring countries, most of them since 2007, when the fighting intensified. Nearly 170,000 have fled this year alone, according to U.N. officials, arriving in desolate camps inside and outside Somalia with barely anything except the clothes on their backs.

Many are running from al-Shabab's radical dictates and increasing savagery, as well as fears of a major government offensive.

This article is based on more than 60 interviews conducted in Somali refugee communities in Kenya and Yemen. The refugees' stories of life under al-Shabab could not be independently verified, but community leaders, refugee officials and human rights groups as well as al-Shabab spokesmen gave similar accounts of recent events in Somalia.

Allawi had plenty of reasons to flee. Al-Shabab fighters, she said, once whipped her for not attending midday prayers at the mosque. Last month, she was forced to prove that the man she was walking with was her husband.

An al-Shabab commander also sought to recruit two of Allawi's sons, ages 10 and 13. Allawi begged him not to take them. In exchange, he forced her to buy three weapons for his force.

"If they could all afford to come, not a single person would remain in Somalia," said Allawi, 37, seated with her children on the reddish, sunbaked earth a day after they arrived. "There is no freedom in Somalia, only death."

Instability since 1991


War has gripped Somalia since 1991, when the collapse of President Mohamed Siad Barre's regime plunged the country into lawlessness and clan fighting. Two years later, mobs dragged the bodies of U.S. soldiers through Mogadishu, the capital, during a U.N. peacekeeping mission, an event later depicted in the movie "Black Hawk Down."

The country has vexed U.S. policymakers, who fear that Somalia could become the next Afghanistan. In December 2006, the George W. Bush administration indirectly backed an Ethiopian invasion to overthrow the Islamists, who had risen up against Somalia's secular warlords.

On a Friday in October, the Ibrahim brothers -- Sayeed and Osman -- were taken from their prison cell in the coastal Somali town of Kismaayo. An al-Shabab court had convicted them of robbery, they said, adding that their imprisonment was politically motivated.

The brothers and a third inmate were driven in a minibus to a field in front of a police station. A crowd of 4,000 had gathered. Ten masked men stood in the field; one held a microphone and another clutched a knife, the brothers recalled.

The third inmate, in his early 20s, was taken out of the van. Several of the masked men held him down and his foot was chopped off above the ankle, the brothers recalled.

It took five minutes.

"God is great," chanted the fighters, drowning out the screams.

Minutes later, the brothers were taken out of the van. Sayeed looked away as his brother's leg was sliced off.

"I felt powerless," Sayeed said. "I wanted a miracle to happen."

A voice over the loudspeaker announced that Sayeed's right hand and left leg were to be amputated. By the time his limbs were hacked off, he had passed out. He woke up in a hospital. After 10 days, the brothers fled Kismaayo. In February, relatives hid them inside a crowded minibus and smuggled them into Kenya.

"What they did to us has nothing to do with Islam," said Osman, as he struggled to get up from a chair with his crutches.

But Mohammed Muse Gouled, 70, said al-Shabab had helped bring stability. For years, he said, warlords contested for power and territory, and chaos and insecurity grew. "No one can harm you under the Shabab," said Gouled, adding that he fled shelling by the regional African Union peacekeeping force.

One woman's journey


Habiba Abdi, 19, was five months pregnant and unmarried. Under the dictates of al-Shabab, she would have faced death by stoning. Fighters entered her neighborhood in Kismaayo, searching for the woman with the "illegal child."

She hid with relatives. Four days later, she begged a smuggler to take her to Kenya. A few months later, she had a baby girl. She named her Sabreen, which means "tolerance."

They live here with a cousin. Other refugees taunt her as the "one who broke the law of Islam." Some call her love, or whore.

But she is more worried about al-Shabab. Last year, fighters from the militia crossed into Kenya and abducted three aid workers and a Somali cleric; last week, the group raided a Kenyan border town.

"Sometimes, I prefer to die," said Abdi, as she cradled Sabreen in her arms.

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:02 am
by Mad May
Same thing happened in Garbahaaray a few months ago, al-Shabaab muriyaan threatened to kill a girl when she rejected him :|

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:05 am
by LobsterUnit
War Waxasi wa bullshit from the washington post. i feel sorry for you guys for clinging to desperate stories written by zionists. :mrgreen: kulaha alshabab whipped women for not praying jamaca in the masjid. :down:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:07 am
by Paddington Bear
Allawi had plenty of reasons to flee. Al-Shabab fighters, she said, once whipped her for not attending midday prayers at the mosque. Last month, she was forced to prove that the man she was walking with was her husband.
One minute Al Shabab is compared to the Taliban and is against women working, leaving home or mixing with men. The next, they are evil men that beat up women who miss prayers at the mosque.

God! Will feeble propaganda ever end? :mrgreen:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:07 am
by AwdalPrince
Propaganda. This story resembles a fairy tale :down:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:09 am
by Mad May
Somalilander and Djibouti guy; :lost:
Wax ku quseeyo xagaan kuma taal :arrow:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:12 am
by Gh0st
this is bullpiss propaganda made by bra burning jewish feminist bytches, only kaafirs would believe this. nacalad baa gaal iyo gaalo raac ku yaal.

al shabab :up:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:13 am
by Paddington Bear
Mad May wrote:Somalilander and Djibouti guy; :lost:
Wax ku quseeyo xagaan kuma taal :arrow:
Get over yourself, dear. War and the loss of life of any human concerns us all. Now go back and return with better propaganda. :mrgreen:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:18 am
by Mad May
It doesnt concern you because it doesnt affect you, you can scream 'propaganda' all you like, it doesnt change the reality. Now kindly exit my thread :arrow:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:24 am
by 1nemansquad
that advo thread, about Kim K and Reggie Bush has more substance than this nonsense :down:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:26 am
by Paddington Bear
Mad May wrote:It doesnt concern you because it doesnt affect you, you can scream 'propaganda' all you like, it doesnt change the reality. Now kindly exit my thread :arrow:
And it affects you how? Are you posting from Xamar with rockets falling all around you and messing up your immaculate coiffure? :mrgreen:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:28 am
by Mad May
It does, but I dont need to get into that.

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:30 am
by LobsterUnit
1nemansquad wrote:that advo thread, about Kim K and Reggie Bush has more substance than this nonsense :down:
lol. When you interview " 60 Somali refugee communities in Kenya and Yemen", then these are the type of stories folks will make up in order to pass as legitimate refugees. I don't really blame them. Just think about our elders assylum stories and how they came to the west. I am actually surprised there are no stories of homosexual minorities being persecuted. Now, That's an assylum banker right there. :mrgreen:

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:31 am
by BlackVelvet
Last month, she was forced to prove that the man she was walking with was her husband.
That happens in Qatar so it's not a stretch. Only thing is Somalis in Somalia don't have ID cards so how would they prove it? I wonder if they have nikaax certificates :?

Al Shabab are capable of this and worse and you know it :down: waa mooriyaan with cimaamad

Re: Marry us or die

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:32 am
by Mad May
GaajoUnit wrote:
1nemansquad wrote:that advo thread, about Kim K and Reggie Bush has more substance than this nonsense :down:
lol. When you interview " 60 Somali refugee communities in Kenya and Yemen", then these are the type of stories folks will make up in order to pass as legitimate refugees. I don't really blame them. Just think about our elders assylum stories and how they came to west. I am actually surprised there are no stories of homosexual minorities being persecuted. Now, That's an assylum banker right there. :mrgreen:
Because there are no legitimate Somali refugees fleeing al-Shabab persecution? They cant all be fleeing AMISOM (retaliatory/defensive) shelling surely? :|