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Somali Culture and The Radicals
Recently the radical Arabian sponsored movement Alshabaab categorically forbid Somali music to be played on the radio throughout South. Of course the Arab movement claims it is banning Somali music because it is unIslamic. But the reality is the radical movement intends to destroy centries old Somali culture and literature and replace with foriegn Arab culture.
The radical movement wanting to ban Somali songs means banning centuries old Somali values and wisdom. Why should a song like this be banned:
Nin ku siray wax kuu sheeg (fourth down the list) http://hoygasuugaanta.webs.com/wadani.html
Saynab Cige
Maxaa sira la qabsaday,
Safsaf laysu kala madhay
Siraad laysku wada shiday
Laysu sidar-daahayaa
Salaan aan niya ahayn
Gacmo laysu saaraa
Laysu soo dhaweeyaa
Runta laga siqaayaa
Beenta sacabka lootumay
Aduunyada cir iyo caad
Ninba sidii dantiisa ah
U siitaa saqaafaha
Saamo laysu jiidaa
Laysu wada sanqanayaa
Siddiqabaxi daba taal
Afka subug la miriyaa
Calooshuna sun jiiftaa
Sancaalaha Gumeystaha
Hubka ay sameystaan
Hadaanay dhiiga ku socidsiin
Siduu u gadmaayaa?
Salaad Darbi
Waxay tahay su’aashii
Kolba laba sokeeyaa ah
Saaxiiboo walaala ah
Laysku soo diraayaa
Maarkii laba saf loo go’ee
Saanadii dhamaatee
Soo qayshado la dagihii
“Sorry” waannu ka xunahay
Silic iyo dhibkiinee
Siintee way dhamaatee
Sawaariikhda naga gada
Sahal loo yiraahdaa
Waa sidaa ujeeddada
Afrikaay Sidaadaba
Sac baan xoolo leenahay
La yiraahdo saxardiid
Sumadiisu midab tahay
Afartan iyo sided naas
Simani ay ku yaallaan
Caanuhunu sunsumayaan
Magool
Markii aan salaadiyo
Saqda dhexe rag toosiyo
Candhasaabkii waayuu
Isticmaarku salaaxuu
Sibraaradu ku dhaansaday;
Jeeraad saafi noqotaanood
Fara siman ahaataan
Inaad seermaweydiyo
Gurya-samo ka baaqdaan
Sacabka how garaacina
Sidan waa naqaa
Sidanna waannu garannaa
Haday gacantu saan tahay
Sir bey cirib ku leedahay
Maxamed Suleebaan
Sinaantui waa dhab,
Saadaashu waa run
Xornimo waa sed
Hadaad samirkii aragteen
Waxba inaanu soo sidin
Sanadkana ogaatiin
Qarnigana sargooyada
Labaatan uu ku suagan yahay
Taariikhdana la socotaan
Maydun seefta maashaan!
Ilaa aad sameysaan
Saldhigyo tidhaahdaan
Sokeyihii Madoobaa
Sugi meyno nolol wacan
Nin kusiray wax kee sheeg
Nin ku sugay gar kuu dhigay
Nin ku siiyey kuu faan
Nin sarbeebey kaa qari
Afrikaay ha seexan
Afrikaay ha seexan
One of the treasures of Somali culture.
The radical movement wanting to ban Somali songs means banning centuries old Somali values and wisdom. Why should a song like this be banned:
Nin ku siray wax kuu sheeg (fourth down the list) http://hoygasuugaanta.webs.com/wadani.html
Saynab Cige
Maxaa sira la qabsaday,
Safsaf laysu kala madhay
Siraad laysku wada shiday
Laysu sidar-daahayaa
Salaan aan niya ahayn
Gacmo laysu saaraa
Laysu soo dhaweeyaa
Runta laga siqaayaa
Beenta sacabka lootumay
Aduunyada cir iyo caad
Ninba sidii dantiisa ah
U siitaa saqaafaha
Saamo laysu jiidaa
Laysu wada sanqanayaa
Siddiqabaxi daba taal
Afka subug la miriyaa
Calooshuna sun jiiftaa
Sancaalaha Gumeystaha
Hubka ay sameystaan
Hadaanay dhiiga ku socidsiin
Siduu u gadmaayaa?
Salaad Darbi
Waxay tahay su’aashii
Kolba laba sokeeyaa ah
Saaxiiboo walaala ah
Laysku soo diraayaa
Maarkii laba saf loo go’ee
Saanadii dhamaatee
Soo qayshado la dagihii
“Sorry” waannu ka xunahay
Silic iyo dhibkiinee
Siintee way dhamaatee
Sawaariikhda naga gada
Sahal loo yiraahdaa
Waa sidaa ujeeddada
Afrikaay Sidaadaba
Sac baan xoolo leenahay
La yiraahdo saxardiid
Sumadiisu midab tahay
Afartan iyo sided naas
Simani ay ku yaallaan
Caanuhunu sunsumayaan
Magool
Markii aan salaadiyo
Saqda dhexe rag toosiyo
Candhasaabkii waayuu
Isticmaarku salaaxuu
Sibraaradu ku dhaansaday;
Jeeraad saafi noqotaanood
Fara siman ahaataan
Inaad seermaweydiyo
Gurya-samo ka baaqdaan
Sacabka how garaacina
Sidan waa naqaa
Sidanna waannu garannaa
Haday gacantu saan tahay
Sir bey cirib ku leedahay
Maxamed Suleebaan
Sinaantui waa dhab,
Saadaashu waa run
Xornimo waa sed
Hadaad samirkii aragteen
Waxba inaanu soo sidin
Sanadkana ogaatiin
Qarnigana sargooyada
Labaatan uu ku suagan yahay
Taariikhdana la socotaan
Maydun seefta maashaan!
Ilaa aad sameysaan
Saldhigyo tidhaahdaan
Sokeyihii Madoobaa
Sugi meyno nolol wacan
Nin kusiray wax kee sheeg
Nin ku sugay gar kuu dhigay
Nin ku siiyey kuu faan
Nin sarbeebey kaa qari
Afrikaay ha seexan
Afrikaay ha seexan
One of the treasures of Somali culture.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
So you also see Islam as "foriegn Arab culture" aswell?Nolol cusub wrote:But the reality is the radical movement intends to destroy centries old Somali culture and literature and replace with foriegn Arab culture.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
You think Somali Music is exempt from the Quran's clear stance on music?
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
I hope this person isn't deluding himself by claiming Islam. I doubt its the case, seeing as how its only a 'foreign Arab culture', but you can never be sureNolol cusub wrote:But the reality is the radical movement intends to destroy centries old Somali culture and literature and replace with foriegn Arab culture.

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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
I gather none of you listened the song or read the words. What is it that makes this song anti-Islamic? What values in the song are in contradiction with Islamic values?
Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
There is nothing wrong with words, or even A Capella, the problem is the instruments being used, which is unislamic. Godane was doing a gabay on BBC, that is centuries old culture of ours, these instruments are not.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
The message in the song is very complex. It unites somali people on certian ideas: vigilance against Isticmaarka, selfreliance, violence against fellow Somali, discerning the hidden meaning, guarding against appearances..
There is also a historical benefit of the song. It links the younger generation with comtemprary generation of the song. What was their values and how did they convey to themselves? What language did they use? What people on earth don't have their unique culture?
What happens when we throw our history and culture becuase some misguided Arab wanna be wants it to be banned.
There is also a historical benefit of the song. It links the younger generation with comtemprary generation of the song. What was their values and how did they convey to themselves? What language did they use? What people on earth don't have their unique culture?
What happens when we throw our history and culture becuase some misguided Arab wanna be wants it to be banned.
Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
You just want to promote you propaganda that no one is falling for. They have no problem with the lyrics or even singing, what they told people is INSTRUMENTS are xaraam, and these instruments ARE NOT PART OF THE SOMALI CULTURE, THEY ARE FOREIGN.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
Nolol cusub, you know well the nationalist card doesn't work. Many have argued Somali nationalism is dead. I personally believe the allure of nationalism in Muslim countries is on the deathbed. It's been several decades since Muslim countries gained independence, during which time radicals have been absent from the political scene, and you know the Muslim masses have suffered from corruption, nepotism, favoritism, squandering the national resources, poverty, famine, civil wars, lack of progress and development, etc. All sorts of secular systems have been tried during that time. That's why the US, EU and AU are aiding a Somali group (ASWJ) masking itself as moderate radicals or Islamists. I'm afraid the era of nationalism is gone for good.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
So the tools are anti-Islamic. That is very funny. It makes no sense at all.
Tools are tools it is how we use them just like technology. By the way anything that contradicts human reasoning has no basis in Islam. That is famous wisdom I learned from the great Ibn Taymiyyah.
Tools are tools it is how we use them just like technology. By the way anything that contradicts human reasoning has no basis in Islam. That is famous wisdom I learned from the great Ibn Taymiyyah.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
I didn't know you admire Ibn Taymiyyah.Nolol cusub wrote:That is famous wisdom I learned from the great Ibn Taymiyyah.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
Hadraawi's baladweyn is great example of what Somali music means to the cultural and national identity of Somalis. He is the smartest, most perceptive Somali ever. This comes across clearly in beledweyn where he links Love, Boodhari, duty, patriotism, a rich description of beledweyn landscape, its wealth, its rivers, a depiction of beautiful Somali woman , and one man from the capital who falls in love with everything about Beledweyn. It captures the imagination of every Somali even those who have never been to Beledweyn. But of course part of this cultural appeal is the music of the song and how it changes with various descriptions of chracters, land and concepts. The music makes more beautiful something that is masterpeice.
baladweyn (tenth song on the list) http://www.hiiraan.com/beerlula.htm
Bi'i waa jacaylow
boodhari inuu dilay
been baan u haystee
bi'i waa jacaylow
boogaan la dhayinoo
cidi baanan karinoo
beerka iyo wadnaha iyo
bogga kaaga taalliyo
inuu yahay bir caashaqu
been baan u haystee.
webigoo butaacoo
beeraha waraabshoo
dhulku baadku jiifoo
dhirta ubaxu buuxshoo
badarkiyo gelleyddii
laga tuuray baalkoo
canabkii bislaadoo
bulladiyo ciyaaraha
lagu waa bariistoo
beeluhu gu' joogaan
saw bari samaadkii
beledweyne maan tegin.
dhanka bari magaalada
saw boqorod joogtoo
biyo dahab la moodoo
bilicdii haweenkiyo
bili loo dhammeeyoo.
Timo boqonta joogoo
baal goray la moodoo
baarkana casaankii
bidix midig is gaadhoo
bul cad lagu sideeyo.
bar ku seexanaysoo
barkanaysa qaaroo
huuwanaysa baaloo
igu beertay lahashoo
u buseelay maan baran.
saw goor barqa ahoo
bishu ay siddeed tahay
aniga iyo beerlula
isku maanan soo bixin.
saw bariidadaydii iyo
bilashadeedii
buundada ciyaartee
beledweyn ku taalee
iyo buurta guudkood
bartankeeda maahayn.
sow bixiso weeyee
balan maanu dhiganoo
baryo joog imay odhan.
sow beer go'aygii
layguma bishaarayn.
maantaa la baxayaa
bulshadii imay odhan.
sow waa bestayoo
socod beegsan maayee
Ina baaji caawoo
I baxnaansha maan odhan
sow taliye baasoo
ba'anoo war moogi
teydii ma beeneyn
sow badiba kooxdii
goortay bareereen
baabuurka fuuleen
ana baal kamaan korin
boholyow daraaddii
sow barar nuglaantii
balo lagu ducaystiyo
baryo kuma maqnaynoo
biri may xumaatoo
baadroolka daadsho
ka wadaa bukoodoo
bogsan waayo maan odhan
Sow beriga waagiyo
barqa kulul dhexdoodii
geed baaxad weynoo
dherer iyo ballaar lehoo
baladweyn ku caanoo
la yiraahdo baaroo
bilig dheer hirkiisii
ma bidhaansanaynoo
bulxankiisa yeedhiyo
ma maqlaynin baaqoo.
sow baaxad soorihii
iyo laba boglayntii
maan noqon bisteeyoo
bacadkii ma dheelliman.
sow galab boqoolkii
annagoo barwaaqiyo
meel baadle joognoo
tumanaynna Beerrey
Sooma maan baraarugin
riyo beena weeyee
saw baalladeydii
baabuur lalaayoo
haad baalle moodoo
fananaayo buur dheer
isma odhan ka boodo
nafta sow ma biimayn
nin Banaadir joogoo
baledweyn la haystoo
waxaan ahay la baabee
saw baadi doonkii
wali baafis maan ihi
beledweyn alahayow
ka dhig guri barwaaqee
beerlula alahayow
balaayada hareer mari
beledweyn alahayow
ka dhig beerta raaxada
beerlula alahayow
guryo samo ku nooleey
beledweyn alahayow
ka dhig xero baraare
beerlula alahayow
ka bari mari waxyeelada
beerlula alahayow
garab mari waxyeelada
beerlula alahayow
balaayada hareer mari
beerlula alahayow
barya samo ku nooleey
saxarla
baladweyn (tenth song on the list) http://www.hiiraan.com/beerlula.htm
Bi'i waa jacaylow
boodhari inuu dilay
been baan u haystee
bi'i waa jacaylow
boogaan la dhayinoo
cidi baanan karinoo
beerka iyo wadnaha iyo
bogga kaaga taalliyo
inuu yahay bir caashaqu
been baan u haystee.
webigoo butaacoo
beeraha waraabshoo
dhulku baadku jiifoo
dhirta ubaxu buuxshoo
badarkiyo gelleyddii
laga tuuray baalkoo
canabkii bislaadoo
bulladiyo ciyaaraha
lagu waa bariistoo
beeluhu gu' joogaan
saw bari samaadkii
beledweyne maan tegin.
dhanka bari magaalada
saw boqorod joogtoo
biyo dahab la moodoo
bilicdii haweenkiyo
bili loo dhammeeyoo.
Timo boqonta joogoo
baal goray la moodoo
baarkana casaankii
bidix midig is gaadhoo
bul cad lagu sideeyo.
bar ku seexanaysoo
barkanaysa qaaroo
huuwanaysa baaloo
igu beertay lahashoo
u buseelay maan baran.
saw goor barqa ahoo
bishu ay siddeed tahay
aniga iyo beerlula
isku maanan soo bixin.
saw bariidadaydii iyo
bilashadeedii
buundada ciyaartee
beledweyn ku taalee
iyo buurta guudkood
bartankeeda maahayn.
sow bixiso weeyee
balan maanu dhiganoo
baryo joog imay odhan.
sow beer go'aygii
layguma bishaarayn.
maantaa la baxayaa
bulshadii imay odhan.
sow waa bestayoo
socod beegsan maayee
Ina baaji caawoo
I baxnaansha maan odhan
sow taliye baasoo
ba'anoo war moogi
teydii ma beeneyn
sow badiba kooxdii
goortay bareereen
baabuurka fuuleen
ana baal kamaan korin
boholyow daraaddii
sow barar nuglaantii
balo lagu ducaystiyo
baryo kuma maqnaynoo
biri may xumaatoo
baadroolka daadsho
ka wadaa bukoodoo
bogsan waayo maan odhan
Sow beriga waagiyo
barqa kulul dhexdoodii
geed baaxad weynoo
dherer iyo ballaar lehoo
baladweyn ku caanoo
la yiraahdo baaroo
bilig dheer hirkiisii
ma bidhaansanaynoo
bulxankiisa yeedhiyo
ma maqlaynin baaqoo.
sow baaxad soorihii
iyo laba boglayntii
maan noqon bisteeyoo
bacadkii ma dheelliman.
sow galab boqoolkii
annagoo barwaaqiyo
meel baadle joognoo
tumanaynna Beerrey
Sooma maan baraarugin
riyo beena weeyee
saw baalladeydii
baabuur lalaayoo
haad baalle moodoo
fananaayo buur dheer
isma odhan ka boodo
nafta sow ma biimayn
nin Banaadir joogoo
baledweyn la haystoo
waxaan ahay la baabee
saw baadi doonkii
wali baafis maan ihi
beledweyn alahayow
ka dhig guri barwaaqee
beerlula alahayow
balaayada hareer mari
beledweyn alahayow
ka dhig beerta raaxada
beerlula alahayow
guryo samo ku nooleey
beledweyn alahayow
ka dhig xero baraare
beerlula alahayow
ka bari mari waxyeelada
beerlula alahayow
garab mari waxyeelada
beerlula alahayow
balaayada hareer mari
beerlula alahayow
barya samo ku nooleey
saxarla
Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
You still haven't explained what does your knickname "Nolosha Cusub" stands for. Like I have asked before I am going to repeat myself, are you a kufr boy? Is that what your name stands for and the reason behind your hatred toward HSHM? Well, if you are a kufr boy, you are not going to fool any one since you crossed the line and choose to be Gaal saancadaale ah.
If Somali culture is not compliant with islam, it should be thrown out and rejected. The era of bid'a and pre-Islamic practices is coming to an end.
If Somali culture is not compliant with islam, it should be thrown out and rejected. The era of bid'a and pre-Islamic practices is coming to an end.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
Whilst agree that music is haram and some past Ulema used to encourage the burning of musical instruments, I still believe that it is almost near impossible to cleanse music in the modern world, especially from Somalis, who have a great love for music. They( the Mujahideen) should prevent ppl from staging parties, live music, free mixing and so forth, but checking peoples mobile phones and ordering radio stations is only a reactionary order. It simply turns people against them and gives ammunition to the likes of " nolol cusub" and the gaalorac proxies. I suspect many SOmalis are probably listening to music in secret at home. Their goal should be to educate people on music and work ona gradual reduction. Prohibition with education nd wisdom are merely temporary solutions. If the Mujahideen are defeated, many SOmalis will come out on the streets and starting play music with loud speakers.
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Re: Somali Culture and The Radicals
From Magool to Um Kalthoom?Nolol cusub wrote:Recently the radical Arabian sponsored movement Alshabaab categorically forbid Somali music to be played on the radio throughout South. Of course the Arab movement claims it is banning Somali music because it is unIslamic. But the reality is the radical movement intends to destroy centries old Somali culture and literature and replace with foriegn Arab culture.


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