The Dhulbahante Were Forced To Submit Under the darwiish

[The_Emperior5]

Their Camels Were taken Their Garaad was killed No leadership with In the clan
they were forced To come under the Darwish

[Siciid85]

That is not surprising there was even a letter the suldan/garaad of dhulbahante wrote to the british asking them to rescue his people from sayyid forcing them to join the dervish 1 by 1.

[The_Emperior5]

That is not surprising there was even a letter the suldan/garaad of dhulbahante wrote to the british asking them to rescue his people from sayyid forcing them to join the dervish 1 by 1.

To bad he was murdered By the dervishes Check this out the DHulbahante were acting Neutral And The dervishes attacked them And forced them To Submit Under the Darwiish, they had no choice. and they were to weak to resist.




3.2 The killing of Garaad Cali

Garaad Cali Garaad Maxamuud of the Bah-Ararsame lineage of the Dhulbahante clan was one of the Somali clan leaders whose people lived in part of Nugaal. Garaad Cali felt uneasy at the expanding power of the Sayid within his matrilineal relatives, the Dhulbahante. Towards the end of 1899, Sayid Maxamed sent a delegation to convince the Garaad to join him and his people in the Daraawiish movement. Garaad Cali refused and replied, "Let the Sheikh deal with religious affairs but other affairs of the people and clans are not his domain. There are no infidels in Nugaal. We are not going to those (infidels) who are at the coast and in the towns."[24]

In the land that Sayid Maxamed sought to build his power were his maternal kin thus the people expected him to follow the footsteps of his father who was a Quran teacher. On his return, Sayid Maxamed was expected to be a Quran teacher and sheikh among the pastoral society and not as a leader of the people who were not his paternal kinsmen.

Sayid Maxamed sent another delegation to the Garaad inviting him to the xarun (headquarters). With reluctance Garaad Cali accepted to meet Sayid Maxamed in his xarun. In the heated debate which followed Garaad Cali emphasised his position, "I am the ruler of Nugaal and its people. Their management is mine and I expect everybody to respect it."[25]

A challenge of leadership between the two men followed: a traditionalist one against the introduction of a new system into the country by the Daraawiish, a practice alien to the pastoral society. Garaad Cali sent a letter to Boqor Cismaan of the Sultanate of Majeerteen in Boosaaso in the northeastern part of the Somali peninsula, requesting his support.[26] He sent another letter to the British Consul-General at Berbera asking for help[27] against Sayid Maxamed.

The resulting hostility prompted Sayid Maxamed to dispatch a group of Daraawiish to assassinate the Garaad. The killing of Garaad Cali astonished the Somali clans and destabilized the Daraawiish.[28] This incident proved to be one of the most catastrophic miscalculations made by Sayid Maxamed. Many of his followers left the dariqa angered by the carnage of the Garaad. Only a few the groups of his maternal kin, the Cali Geri, stood fast with him. By losing the support of the Nugaal people and following the instability caused by the killing of Garaad Cali, Sayid Maxamed and his followers were forced into the Ogaadeen, among his paternal kin.

[Siciid85]

But i won't wonder how come he wasn't a freelancer like men like Cali Darawish, etc.

[The_Emperior5]

But i won't wonder how come he wasn't a freelancer like men like Cali Darawish, etc.

They cant they were occupied They were Colonised First By the British and then Again Occupid By the derviish , ali darwiish was a gadhweyn From sanaag watu ina cabdulla xassan laha

Nimanyahow gadhweyn gaalo ha iga raacina
gabadhaa Ararsame iyo Hartaan idinku geedaam

[Siciid85]

what does Geedam means? give? and who ararsame does he mean bahararsame? and i know Cali darawish was gadhweyn.

[udun]

This is an utter rubbish. These two Iidoors are inventing history. There were three subclans of Dhulbahante who were opposed to him initially. Dervishes had a policy and if you are not part of the movement and opposed to them at the same time, you are like any other enemy. There were several attacks on their livetock. One of the Dhulbahante who was opposed to the Dervishes movement came up this peom at the end of one of the battle in Jidbaale where many Dhulbahante and Mareexaan (Reer Kooshin) were killed on the dervishes' side after fierce battle with the British troops who were made up from British, Somali (iidoor), Indian, and African soldiers:

This is a Kaarshe Saliiq poem:

Daraawiishta qooqani markay nagu qalaadaysay
Ma u qarinay maadhiin qacliyo qabar aan loo sheegin
Ma u qubatay sida roob gu oo yare qayoodaaya
Qudha kala waabine dagaal qiro leh ma u keenay.

Another Dhulbahante warrior who was opposed to the Dervishes movement came up this poem. His name was Ducaale fagaase:

Sayidkuba ka fiiq geelayaga inuu faduushaaye
Waa feleg nin lihi foofsadaan feleg ka yaabayne
Fagaasiyo wax lagaga fiigaaga raggii faraska waalnaaye

After that poem reached Sayid Mohamed, he came up this poem:

Geela siisahaygiisii arkee soolka laga cayrshay
Ee lebi dagaaleed mariyo soolka iyo hawdka
Sayid baa ka baqay waa halaan saabka geli hayne

The Dhulbahante who were looted were those three clans who were opposed to him. However, overwhelmingly, Dhulbahante committed as a clan to the religious staruggle. That is a history that no one can deny it. The main reason was 1) it was a religious struggle 2) Sayid Mohamed's mother was Dhulbahante, Reer Cali Geri, his father's mother was Dhulbahante Khayr Cabdi. The Reer Cabdalle Hassan has always settled among Dhulbahante. 3) Reer Cali Gari has spearheaded the struggle after all of the non-Dhulbahante clans including Iidoors and others back-off.

End of the story.

They keep repeating Cali Darwiish was a member of Dervish movement, so what is the weight one man who happen to be in the Dervish movement? Keep in mind those days, you were not a significant clan and were kept on those mountains. But if any Iidoor had contributed to the Dervishes movement, why Sayid Mohamed came up this poem:

Iidoor wagaashliyo kufriga wacad Allow Yaale
Waana duul walaalo ah tan iyo waagii aakhira e

Where are you gonna go around from that tix?

How about this:

Iifoorka baydhee
Balankii Illaah furay
Inuu baara weynow cawar(gaalka) beedka ugu galay
Kuligood berberiguba baha gaalo weeyaan
....

Two Iidoor dummies are trying rewrite history.

In return, this is what Sayid Mohamed has called Dhulbahante:

Ragga diinta hoyga u noqday iyo hanad shirshooraa leh.

How about this from Sayid Mohamed in response to Ali Jaamac Haabiil:

Harti niman aqoon baa yiraah hadlaka qaarkiise
Waa niman hurmuud wada ah iyo hanadyo waaweyne
Waa niman haday rag is hayaan huriya baaruude
Waa niman hantaataca kufriga hoor kasoo qubaye
.
.
Waxse heer leh gaal haatuf liyo harabka IIDOORE

[The_Emperior5]

The iidoors took part of the dervishes The Elite commanders and the leaders of the dervishes were Suldan nur amaan xaji suudi shabele And ina cabdilla xassan i mean they estebleshed The whole Moverment , ismacil Mire in the batle of 1904 Was a boy that grew up in the dervish camp never took part of the battles. you proofed my point Darwiish was a group of A people and not a dhulbahante moverment as you said the dhulbahante where Looted and Karbaashed serveral times Darwisih was a moverment Led by A man called ina cabdilla xassan and xaji sudi shabeelle and The h.Y. sultan

History is written by the white man






When we killed giib cawad khuurshe the muse care chief said , war gaalku magtisu wamaxay u sheeg gaalka burcanu joogna cawad khuurse reer burco wa yaqanin hada gaalku u sheegeya









I mean this is historical fact sxb no one can say its fals Xaji suudi shabelle. Habarjeclo adan madoobe leading the battle. Suldaan nur amaan the habaryoonis sultan leading an entire army
Marka dhulbahante gaalu necebyahay garaadkoodii ingriisku warqado dhadheer u qori jiray , marki danbe na wala dilay darwiish tumaala dilay gabaya laga tiriyey etc
Cali jamaac haabil muxu yidhi , garaadki kalle ay caleemo saareen waati darawishta laga ilaalin jiray

Toogtii horeetuu Isaaq, taw ka soo yidhiye
Tamaradii Ilaahay ka qaad, Timihi Daaroode
Arasame ma tooxsado fardaha, takhantakhoodiiye
Tafantoofe nimankii Nugaal, taysa ku lahaaye.

Maxamuud Garaad turunturruu, weli la tiicaaye
Barkadkii tumaadida caddaa, tuhunki waa beene
Teed laguma oga Bahararsamii, turuqa weynaaye
Garaadka ay tumaaluhu dileen, taawishaa qabane.

Tolkood nimanka iibsadey Ilaah, tacabki waa siinne
Tawstuna Cali Geri bay ku hadhi, taniyo xaataaye.
Talaatiinka Ramadaan ninkii, idin takliifaayey
Toobadda iyo Ash-haadada ninkii, idin taraarsiiyey


As for marku ina cabdille xasan amanayo hartiga dee waa nin tolkis amaanayo, Xassan tarabi made so many poems u ku amanayo tolkisa cudubku cididhiga u dagay ma cidkalad mooday so cududa habaryoonis iyo ciiddagalle maha

Cuqaal talisa Boqor caaddila iyo culimo miisaan leh. Ilaahi Carshiga Nuuriyoow kaaga caban mayno. Caddaankaanu wada loollanaa madaw cisaynmayno ...

wa caadi taasi sxb

[Siciid85]

Udun, so what is your point just because he insulted them? well once again he also praised them.



In the early days of the Daraawiish movement the Gadhweyns-HY were the first clans to join in the call for Jihad against the Colonialists, their suldaans and leaders all joined the movement boosting the Darawiish movement from a small Dhulbahante subclan into a multi clan powerful force.

One of the first places where the Daraawiish made home was in the Gadhweyns-HY lands of Midhisho, Daallo and deep in the Sanaag regions. At one point, the naive King of the Dhabayaco organized an army to take on the Darawiish, The Gadhweyns having heard the news that about 5000 -Dhabyaco - Warsangeli alliance , heavily armed men were coming from Barii.

Instead of waiting for the colka Bari ka imanaya, the Gadhweyns, led by the fierce Cali Darawish initiated the war by storming the Warsangali villages of Hadaaftimo, Badhan and LaasQorey and reached deep in the Barii region, karbashing the Dhabayaco and Warsangali forces badly in the process.

The chronicle goes, ciidankii Dhabayacadu lahayd, hal nin kali ah ayaa ka baxay. That single man asked the people "Qof miyaa iga soo horeeyay?" markaa ayaa lagu yidhi "maya, adiga ayaa ugu horeeya"... markaasu yidhi "qofna igama danbeeyo.



Mohamed Cabdalle Xassan upon hearing the news that the Dhabayaco and Warsangali were karbaashed so severely, recited the following poem:




Duca awliyaad buu qabaa degaha Tuurwaaye-(Gadhweyn)
Waa niman gaalada deldala doog iyo abaare
Waa nimanka doofaarradii daariguu jaraye (warsangali iyo Dhabayaco)

Roobkiina waa kaa u da'ay duraha jiilaale
Waa kaa dalkoodii ballidu wada duraabtaaye
Waataa arladii daahirtee diib kasoo kariye

Cawskii dumaayoobay baa doog kasoo baxaye
Dalagyadiyo dooxooyinkii diisha iyo qaare
Dunqaarihiyo xamshkaa sidii diriq la moodaaye

Maalkii diraacdii dhalaa doobke loo culane
Duunyada wxa laga maalayaa darartii caanoode
Rabbogii dawaa'iga sidaa deeqii noo ridaye

[grandpakhalif]

AUN reer kooshin dervishes who battled British gaalos

[The_Emperior5]

AUN reer kooshin dervishes who battled British gaalos

Kuwa kala na

[grandpakhalif]

AUN reer kooshin dervishes who battled British gaalos

Kuwa kala na

Moving from Sanaag to Mudug to Jubba battling everyone in their path

[Siciid85]

grandpakhaliif, i don't think there is a evidence of marexaan living in sanaag apart from few families before the collapse of the somali government.

[The_Emperior5]

afraid ha lol war nimanku fuleysana

[udun]

afraid ha lol war nimanku fuleysana

Looks like a desperate boy is faking history. Meanwhile, the story of Nuur Xidig and what he did to the ancestors of the desperate boy in question stands out itself. "Waar maxaad isugu dilaysaan ninkii i duugi lahaa maad i wada duugtaan" dabadeedna "ninba dhinaciisu ka duugay Nuur Xidig", kkkkkkkkkkk.