The Only Somali clan who are still conquering non Somalis

[AwdalPrince]

The Issa!

Whilst the Somalis are busy mutilating eachother, the Issas are hunting down and plundering the Afars and oromos on a daily basis.

"On the eastern side, Issas are the historical enemies of the Afars. Countless bloody conflicts
have been occurring between Afar and Issa since long ago. The conflicts emanate from mixed
causes: mainly search of pastoral resources and other reasons. The Issas have long time
interests in Alleideghi8 plain and hence do not hesitate to inflict attacks on Afar herdsmen at
any time. Discussions held with Afar elders revealed that there are also cases when Issas
intrude deep into the Awash valley and control the Awash riverbank and other tributary rivers
crossing the rangelands... themselves involved in trade for generations (Getachew, 2001). However, the benefit of
Afars from illicit trade trafficking has attracted enemies like Issa who gradually displaced the
Afars from their strategic route.
Every respondent in all cases of group discussion believes that Issa is in their territory. This
belief is not limited to ordinary Afars but local officials also have the same thing in mind.
Even at more formal levels, the conflict with Issa is thought as something enforced externally
to displace the Afars from their homeland. For instance, participants of a conference attested
the efforts of Afars to defend themselves, as they believe that outsiders back this inter-ethnic
conflict."

"The forceful occupation of the land of Afar by
the Issa community is apparent; the federal
government knows that now the sporadic
fighting and retaliation have continued. Both
federal and regional governments also know
the flash points: Adaytu, Ambule, Gedamaytu,
and Undufu, which were originally the Afar
land, now being claimed by the Issa. No
lasting solution has been provided so far….
The question remains whether the federal
government is unwilling or unable to settle
the disputes.26"

Sources: http://www.iss.co.za/uploads/CPRDPAPERAFAR.PDF

[AwdalPrince]

Issa clan forcefully invades Oromos.

"Historically, according to te local officials except for certain traditional conflict
between Somali-Issa and Oromo clans as well as central government backed
campaigns against the Issa ambitious territorial claims and expansions, there
was no exaggerated and recorded conflict in the pre-1991 period. In general the
over all conflicts, animosities, competitions, between the clans of the Mai’so
clusters are basically due to the following reasons: scarcity of resource, poverty,
pastoral mobility in search of pastureland and water point, historical relations and
animosity, government policies like the land to the tiller, the government’s role in
having relations with clans marginalization (Mkutu, 2001: iv) the Ethio-Somali
relation and war, the marginalization of Issa and the new born sentiment of
Greater Somalia, the independence of Djibouti gives confidence to Issa clan, the
Ethio-Eritrean war limited the movement of the Afar community and gave chance
to Issa use Djibouti as main trade route, the OLF syndrome, federalism and the
newly structured regional states along ethno-regional base are some of the
reasons ."

Reer Abti Ciisow oo rax dhe

Source: http://www.aspr.ac.at/epu/research/rp_0306.pdf

[Oxidant]

I feel sorry for the Afar people. They are voiceless people in both Ethiopia and Djibouti. They are not many in numbers. They don't have support like Somalis due with their Diaspora.
Instead of fighting them, lets make them join us. I support the Somalization of the Afar people

[AwdalPrince]

I feel sorry for the Afar people. They are voiceless people in both Ethiopia and Djibouti. They are not many in numbers. They don't have support like Somalis due with their Diaspora.
Instead of fighting them, lets make them join us. I support the Somalization of the Afar people

The Afar would exterminate us if they ahd the chance. My friend let the ciise do their job

[Oxidant]

I feel sorry for the Afar people. They are voiceless people in both Ethiopia and Djibouti. They are not many in numbers. They don't have support like Somalis due with their Diaspora.
Instead of fighting them, lets make them join us. I support the Somalization of the Afar people

The Afar would exterminate us if they ahd the chance. My friend let the ciise do their job

But they can’t and never will

How is the situation in Djibouti exactly? Who are the majority and who holds the power?

[Cirwaaq]

More uncivilised behaviour of this kushitic leftovers.

Disgracefull

[AwdalPrince]

I feel sorry for the Afar people. They are voiceless people in both Ethiopia and Djibouti. They are not many in numbers. They don't have support like Somalis due with their Diaspora.
Instead of fighting them, lets make them join us. I support the Somalization of the Afar people

The Afar would exterminate us if they ahd the chance. My friend let the ciise do their job

But they can’t and never will

How is the situation in Djibouti exactly? Who are the majority and who holds the power?

The Afar as a single unit are the majority. However when the Somalis join together, Issa, Gadabursi, Habr Awal, The Somalis become the majority. They tried to instigat a civil war in Djibouti in the 1990's however it was put down by force.The Issa are the majority Somali in Djibouti and hence they hold the most power followed by Afar, Gadabursi etc

[Oxidant]

The Afar as a single unit are the majority. However when the Somalis join together, Issa, Gadabursi, Habr Awal, The Somalis become the majority. They tried to instigat a civil war in Djibouti in the 1990's however it was put down by force.The Issa are the majority Somali in Djibouti and hence they hold the most power followed by Afar, Gadabursi etc

So basically Somalis are the majority. That’s all I needed to know

[AwdalPrince]

The Afar as a single unit are the majority. However when the Somalis join together, Issa, Gadabursi, Habr Awal, The Somalis become the majority. They tried to instigat a civil war in Djibouti in the 1990's however it was put down by force.The Issa are the majority Somali in Djibouti and hence they hold the most power followed by Afar, Gadabursi etc

So basically Somalis are the majority. That’s all I needed to know

Yes by far. Around 60 - 70% infact

[kambuli]

Killing people is not something to be proud of...Whether you are a powerful country, small country or clan..Life is precious and no one wants to lose his life, so why kill I for me can't even kill a mouse... I am not kidding..

[AwdalPrince]

Killing people is not something to be proud of...Whether you are a powerful country, small country or clan..Life is precious and no one wants to lose his life, so why kill I for me can't even kill a mouse... I am not kidding..

Pastoral life is not easy. Even though its a shame, that is what the world is all about. Competition for resources and that always equals killing.

[udun]

I feel sorry for the Afar people. They are voiceless people in both Ethiopia and Djibouti. They are not many in numbers. They don't have support like Somalis due with their Diaspora.
Instead of fighting them, lets make them join us. I support the Somalization of the Afar people

The Afar would exterminate us if they ahd the chance. My friend let the ciise do their job

Brother Awdal,

Many Somalis here don't know the facts that surround and Afar and Somali-Issa problem. Even tough Afars are closest people to the Somalis, they have a problem with Issa and Somalis in general, that is if you happen to live the areas they populate.

Btw, the tough Issas who are kicking the arse of Afars and Oramos are called Xarla (Harla). Historically, they were Xarla Koombe Kablalax Daarood, but today they part of Issa - Sacad Musse family. They are still Somalis, so it is great. They are recorded to be fearsome and deadly fighters.

Actually, both Somali Issa and the rest of the Somalis in Western Somalia, Afars, and Oramos need political Islam so their ranks can be unified and raise to the challenge against northern highlanders (Amharas and Tigrayans) who are majority Christians and enemy of Islam and Muslims. We should return that history back and need another Ahmad Gurey type guys. Time to reach those northern high mountains is approaching inshallah. No more Kaffas. By the time we get there, it should be all over the place. If 5,000 ragtag Somali Mujahidiin can kick them out of Southern Somalia, why it would like to get them out of SL, Western Somalia, and the rest of Horn of Africa? It won't be long inshallah before we raise the white Islamic flag with Shahadah in the middle in the Gondar and Tigray provinces of Ethiopia. Ameen.

[Gara Man]

This is so funny......and sad. Not at the information Awdal Prince has brung here but rather at the matter he has brung it. Conflicts are nothing to brang about nor does having a cross ethnic clan conflict equivalent to "conquer" someone.

I find it ironic you mentioned the early 1990's because at that time the Issa crews got humiliated by the OLF over dire dawa not to mention another skirmish this time between an Afran Qollo clan in 2001 around Malka Jabdu that sent issas running with their tails between their legs to djbouti.

If you want to brag about conflicts and boarder wars, us oromos can easily do the same....none has more conflicts in Ethiopia between neighbors than oromos. Whether its Oromo vs Somali, Oromo vs Afar, Oromo vs, Amhara, Oromo vs Gumuz, Oromo vs Konso/burji , Oromo vs sidama, or simply Oromo vs Oromo these things happen alot but you wont see oromos brag in the matter you have.

[AbdiWahab252]

This is so funny......and sad. Not at the information Awdal Prince has brung here but rather at the matter he has brung it. Conflicts are nothing to brang about nor does having a cross ethnic clan conflict equivalent to "conquer" someone.

I find it ironic you mentioned the early 1990's because at that time the Issa crews got humiliated by the OLF over dire dawa not to mention another skirmish this time between an Afran Qollo clan in 2001 around Malka Jabdu that sent issas running with their tails between their legs to djbouti.

If you want to brag about conflicts and boarder wars, us oromos can easily do the same....none has more conflicts in Ethiopia between neighbors than oromos. Whether its Oromo vs Somali, Oromo vs Afar, Oromo vs, Amhara, Oromo vs Gumuz, Oromo vs Konso/burji , Oromo vs sidama, or simply Oromo vs Oromo these things happen alot but you wont see oromos brag in the matter you have.

Well put Gara man

[Cirwaaq]

Isse population 300,000

Oromo pop 30million.

For every Isse person there are 100 Oromo.