Al-Shabaab supporters
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Al-Shabaab supporters
If Amisom were an entirely Islamic force (made up of several military contingents from Muslim countries), would it still be xalal to fight against them and the TFG?
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
I support a Somali Islamic State, but not the one that is being unveiled by Shabaab where young adults are at helm with minimum knowledge, where Osama is hailed as another Nabi, People dedicate their deaths to people in Iraq and Afghanistan, where every other muslim is murtid, where political rivals and people with different opinions are haunted and lashed, they dont even have respect for the Somali culumo that taught them the religion. but i doubt if hardcore shabab supporters would welcome muslim armies, the only armies acceptable are al qaeda types and renegades. Shabab are still good for what the South had before, but i dont know if i want them to spread to other areas 

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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
BIG yes . in 2006 we support UIC fighting against warlord / dhabadhlif A/Y ( both are saying muslims ) .
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
Gaalo-raac muslims who are in the way of making Somalia fully sharica law controlled is not acceptable
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
Grandpa, what do you think of sheikh Cumar Faaruuq, Sh. Nur, Sh. Gacamay, all the former teachers and preachers, are they still muslims? 

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That's not a viable question.GacanSareeye wrote:Grandpa, what do you think of sheikh Cumar Faaruuq, Sh. Nur, Sh. Gacamay, all the former teachers and preachers, are they still muslims?
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
yes, killing another muslim is not a viable question, or having ahlul cilmi in any Islamic administration 

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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
You're not making sense, son.GacanSareeye wrote:yes, killing another muslim is not a viable question, or having ahlul cilmi in any Islamic administration
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
i have enough sense not to kill other muslims to get closer to Allah 

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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
XI, AL-shabab, ASJW and sheik. sherif are all muslims and still fighting each other.
The African sons who are being risked by their nations are not on a mission that makes their presence one that is personal to them. No financial incentive would prompt a somali to send his son to go fight in a war in order to support the failed nation of poor country. The african sons dying on somali soil to keep alive a fragile collective of old men that are deemed the final resort for a non existant government.
For so long as they serve the benefit of sheik sherif they are an instrument in the cause of keep sherif in place and the mension of their faith or their country of origin has ZERO relevance. The african soldiers might aswell be from mars and who they are is a non-variable in the equation to restoring peace that has been absent for over 2 decads.
This is a muslim conflict that has gone beyond consuming somali muslim lifes and is now also consuming non somali and non muslim lifes.
The African sons who are being risked by their nations are not on a mission that makes their presence one that is personal to them. No financial incentive would prompt a somali to send his son to go fight in a war in order to support the failed nation of poor country. The african sons dying on somali soil to keep alive a fragile collective of old men that are deemed the final resort for a non existant government.
For so long as they serve the benefit of sheik sherif they are an instrument in the cause of keep sherif in place and the mension of their faith or their country of origin has ZERO relevance. The african soldiers might aswell be from mars and who they are is a non-variable in the equation to restoring peace that has been absent for over 2 decads.
This is a muslim conflict that has gone beyond consuming somali muslim lifes and is now also consuming non somali and non muslim lifes.
Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
If the so-called "international community" were leaving Somalia to the Somalis, we would not be having this debate today. Somalia would have been reconstitued by now if certain big and small countries stop interfering in the internal affairs of Somalia. What I don't understand is no peacekeapers were allowed when the warlords were ruining the country but when peace and normalcy returned and Somalis said enough is enough, Somalia was invaded, toothless governments were forced down to the throats of Somalis, and the killing of Somali civilians moved to an international level where foreign forces were brought in that continue the work of the warlords - the killing of Somali civilains and the denial of the return of Somali state.
It may help if we, Somalis, try to see things beyond clannish lenses and see where our problem lies. Certains powers are denying the reconstitution of Somalia as a unitary independent islamic state. That is the reality whether we dance around it or not.
It may help if we, Somalis, try to see things beyond clannish lenses and see where our problem lies. Certains powers are denying the reconstitution of Somalia as a unitary independent islamic state. That is the reality whether we dance around it or not.
Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
I think obama thought to change a war between flat nose and slim nose which could give him another day.
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
The reason why they fight is not ONLY that there are kuffar on Somali muslim soil, but what TFG and their backers from the most anti-islamic kuffar in this world stand for and what they wish to accomplish in Somalia.
So even if all the people that would come to Somalia to aid TFG would be called Abdullah or Muhammad, that wouldn't change a thing, as long as TFG and their agenda would stay the same.
Jihad by definition is fighting to make Allah's law and religion uppermost in the land. Al fitnatu ashadd min al qatl.
BTW, two from the culama of the past that your people claim to follow the most, ibn AbdilWahhab and ibnul Taymiyah both REBELLED and fought against government with muslim names...
Also to those who are against al Shabab because they rebel against authority, then ask yourself who was there before, Sharif of TFG or al Shabab? It is TFG from their two streets they control that are rebelling against established authority holding basically whole southern Somalia.
So even if all the people that would come to Somalia to aid TFG would be called Abdullah or Muhammad, that wouldn't change a thing, as long as TFG and their agenda would stay the same.
Jihad by definition is fighting to make Allah's law and religion uppermost in the land. Al fitnatu ashadd min al qatl.
BTW, two from the culama of the past that your people claim to follow the most, ibn AbdilWahhab and ibnul Taymiyah both REBELLED and fought against government with muslim names...
Also to those who are against al Shabab because they rebel against authority, then ask yourself who was there before, Sharif of TFG or al Shabab? It is TFG from their two streets they control that are rebelling against established authority holding basically whole southern Somalia.
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
al shabaabul shayaadiin are not fighting agains what you call kufr, but they are figthing agains their fellow somali muslims forexample last week al shabaab whit out even firing singel bullet they whit drown from ceelbarde town becouse of ethiopian army were on their way to ceelbarde, al shabaab just run away, and same week al shabaab attacked a soomali town called ceeldheer which have a muslim 100% somali residence they attacked and killed there lot of civilians.
so if al shabaabul shayaadiin are fighting agains kuft why they run away from ethiopians and are brave enough to fight agains somalis?
and those wahaabi idols like abdulwahab and another wahabbi idols ibnythaymin both are known khawaariji idols and founders of takfiiri ideology and the doctorin of ibnythamin and abdulwahaab are nothing but fidna whit in umutaul muhamed and all they do is terrorising umatul islaam aroud the world.
so if al shabaabul shayaadiin are fighting agains kuft why they run away from ethiopians and are brave enough to fight agains somalis?
and those wahaabi idols like abdulwahab and another wahabbi idols ibnythaymin both are known khawaariji idols and founders of takfiiri ideology and the doctorin of ibnythamin and abdulwahaab are nothing but fidna whit in umutaul muhamed and all they do is terrorising umatul islaam aroud the world.
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Re: Al-Shabaab supporters
The way you put the question seems like it has a purpose, but the answer would still be: halal chicken!
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