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Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:37 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Allahu naxaristo Abdullahi Isse, the Father of the Somali Nation :som:


SOMALIA: Birth Pangs

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 70,00.html

High and dry on the sun-blasted northeastern horn of Africa hangs a backward, poverty-stricken strip of land inhabited by leopards, crocodiles and some 1,300,000 camel-and goat-herding nomads. Back in the19th century after the British, French and Italians helped themselves in imperial fashion to slices of the coast bordering Ethiopia, this desert patch was known as Italian Somaliland. In Mussolini's heyday it became a bridgehead for his conquest of Italian East Africa. Now after years of somnolence, it is back in the news—once again as a trouble spot. The Italians, who kept postwar control of their onetime colony under a temporary U.N. trusteeship, due to wind up at the end of 1960, have announced that Somalia may become independent any time the Somalis like.

The man who stands to become the father of this unprepossessing new country is handsome young (37) Premier Abdullahi Issa, and last week he was worried as only a prospective father can be. It was not just that the Italian government has been providing half Somalia's income. There was also the difficulty that, though camels are Somalia's chief source of wealth, much of the Somali nomads' grazing lands lie over the border in Ethiopia. To the frustrated disgust of Somali nationalists, moreover, French Somaliland voted last year to stay in the French Community, and the French, determined to hang onto their profitable Djibouti rail line to the interior, have made common cause with the Ethiopians against the dream of an independent Greater Somalia made up of all the territories occupied by Somali tribes. Last July President Charles De Gaulle himself stopped off in Djibouti on his way from Paris to Madagascar to announce firmly: "France is here and intends to stay.''

Greater or Little. A leader with a taste for loud ties but moderate policies, Issa prodded the Italians into their promise of early independence. But then Haji Mohammed Hussein, an oldtime nationalist rabble-rouser whose oratory once made Somalis whip off their scarves in frenzy and fling them into the air, arrived back in Mogadiscio from four years' self-imposed exile as one of Nasser's Cairo broadcasters. Almost at once Haji Mohammed formed a Greater Somali League to rival Issa's Somali Youth League, and charged that Issa favored a Little Somalia, confined to Italian Somaliland, because he feared his Hawiya tribe would be swamped in a state that brought 3,000,000 Somalis together. On the eve of showdown elections last spring, Haji Mohammed was refused permission to lead a parade of his partisans in Mogadiscio. "The blood is on the government's head if blood is spilled," he cried. Next day Haji Mohammed was arrested, two of his followers died and 16 more were hurt in rioting.


Peaceful or Violent. In the election, Issa's forces won 83 out of 90 parliamentary seats. But Haji Mohammed's oratory had its effects: no Somali politician any longer dared publicly oppose a union of all the Somali people. Last week, working anxiously to keep Somali scarves on, Issa put through a legislative resolution asking the Italians for independence "as soon as possible." He also announced formation of a new Pan-Somali National Movement, with representatives from Somalia, British Somaliland, French Somaliland, and the Somali-speaking provinces of Ethiopia and Kenya—but pledged to seek Somali unity by "legal and peaceful means." Hard on the heels of these acts, Issa brought Haji Mohammed and 40 followers to trial in Mogadiscio's white, one-story Court of Assizes, on charge of inciting disobedience to law and stirring up "class," i.e., tribal, hatred. Two Italians took charge of the defense, because, an official explained, "there are no Somali lawyers extant."

At week's end, with things momentarily in hand, Premier Issa prepared to fly to New York to appear before the U.N. in a final effort to press a settlement of his sticky territorial dispute with Ethiopia, preferably through a referendum in the Somali grazing lands. "We are not optimistic," he said. "Ethiopia has tried for years to avoid a solution. But it is essential that we have a solution before we become independent."

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Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:00 am
by guhad122
AW,
While C/laahi Ciise did a lot for Somalia and its foundation, you have to remember that the Somalia’s independence started way before that. Ever heard the Siyad aka the Mad Mullah. That man, more than anyone else in this world, was responsible for the Somali independence. In addition, the brave men of Ogaden in Jubaland let the world know how you would never want to mess with the skinny Somalis. In writing about Somali Ogaden, a traveler by the name of I. N. DRACOPOLI wrote about Somali Ogadens and said:"A Typical Bush Somali: these people wander through the interior of Jubaland in endless search of water and pasture for their stock. Wild and warlike at heart, the true Somali finds peace only in strife, and freedom only in a restless life."
http://www.archive.org/stream/throughju ... c_djvu.txt

These men gave you the independance you enjoy in Somalia today way before Hon. C/laahi Isse:
http://british-colonial-africa-from-187 ... _BLAKE.pdf
"Wallace Blake was mentioned in Mr Jenner’s despatches to Sir Arthur Hardinge when reporting on the Ogaden rebellion of 7th November 1898.This particular episode of disruption started on March 22nd when Ogaden warriors murdered three Arabs in protest against slave trading restrictions. In reprisal, twenty-six cattle belonging to the incriminated
tribe were seized by the administration. Later the Ogadens killed several African Police constables"

Fock the Ogs even fucked the stupid Arabs for interfering Og slave trades...They were against Arabs tellling them to stop slavery :clap: :clap: :clap:

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:19 am
by Advo
It's useless reading about pre 69 Somalia

Somalis were pretty much slaves to the colonist, but the bless kacan over compensated and restored our pride before the unlce toms reverted back to their natural roles.

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:23 am
by nomadicwarlord
:up: :up: :som: :som:

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:35 am
by Cirwaaq
The Sacrifice required to achieve a premature Somaliweyn has not altered one bit since the 60ies. Northern somaliweyn activists work on the princible of what is southern is somaliweyn what is northern is Myland. Somaliweyn will never be achieved so long as the concept only exists and is based only in the south. The day what is southern becomes and is declared southernLand then truly a platform of equality will emerge from the ashes of former dreams of the die hard somaliwenyists.

Equal respect and equal representation. Somaliweyn cannot be forced, it should be earned and should have pre-requisite criteria for membership. It requires a totally different philosophy and needs rebranding for modern day Somalis. A population that is so scattered globally and that benefit from supporting such a union of enclaves. A union that addresses the needs of the individual at groundlevel who has no vested interest outside of his immediate geographical residence.

The modern day somaliweyn activist Romancing days gone and ideas past is the single most destructive force that stands in the path of the actuality of the formation of a unified entity that permits free migrations and the peacefull co-existance of all somalis under a single Banner of nationhood, with a single currency and a single shared goal of becoming a global partner.

Look at for example the Europian Union and how long that has taken to happen... How many different leaders tried by force to unity Europe by force?

How long did it take the union to begin to form, without the presence of any force... Peace, mutual respect, mutual value, equal representation and equal commitment without a single bullet fired... The union happens as a byproduct of mutual benefit.

:up: SouthernLand, Konfurland call it what ever you like it needs to focus on letting go of the north if it wants to have any chance of survival. Free itself from S.land and P.land... for it is foolish to attempt to achieve anything while hanging on to these two portions when in fact there are a Total 5-portions at stake. Djbooti, NFD, ogadeen, S.land and P.land(Socotra are under P.land).

Konfuria Needs a New flag and a new political identity. :up:

We are neither the only beneficiaries of Somaliweyn nor are we her only caretakers. When it happens sometime in the next Century our grand children will rejoice in that union. Our sacrifice will serve the interest of many generation to come after us.

:up: Sacrifice Somaliweyn today so that it maybe Reborn fresh and stronger then ever before... out of the ashes it shall rise like a phoenix


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Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:07 am
by Basra-
Cirwaaq .....U can preach child...u can preach... :roll: 8-)

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:40 am
by AbdiWahab252
Guhad,

Indeed. Abdullahi Isse (AUN) was a very modest man who always put the greater good of the Republic before his own personal interests. A selfless leader and the last of his generation.

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:50 am
by Cirwaaq
AbdiWahab252 wrote:Guhad,

Indeed. Abdullahi Isse (AUN) was a very modest man who always put the greater good of the Republic before his own personal interests. A selfless leader and the last of his generation.
That is the problem, there will not be any more like him in the near future and if there was the level of mistrust would make it imposible for s/he to have any influence.

Basra
is it normal for me to feel weird recieving anything other then vulgar comments from you?
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Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:17 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Cirwaaq,

Valid points.

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:51 pm
by AbdiWahab252
Bump

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:48 pm
by original dervish
Nah pure nonsense.....to divide in order to unite makes no sense.

Re: Time Article About Somalia's Birth Sept 14, 1959

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:05 pm
by Cirwaaq
original dervish wrote:Nah pure nonsense.....to divide in order to unite makes no sense.
Let us begin to ask why :dj: :NFD: :OG: have no interest in joining rather than why current members have spent 20years running from a marriage.