Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
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Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Twisted,
Why is the Harti Abgaal are more educated and all over the place than Weceysle? Any truth to that notion?
Why is the Harti Abgaal are more educated and all over the place than Weceysle? Any truth to that notion?
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
guhad
Waceesle are Historically and even to this day the most educated and the most reer magaal (well, maybe not more reer magaal than the reer mataan, those guys are real beezaaniyal) sub-clan of Abgaal.
The Wacbuudhan are the bravest and worriors of Abgaal. The Harti are good at business and politics, especially after the war. But historically, it was Waceesle who dominated everywhere for Abgaal.
How is Harti Abgaal educated when all they gave us in the last 20 years are Cali Mahdi, Maxamed naaso Dheere, Sanbac Cali Jeelle? lol
Walaahi those guys are the dumbest (assuming they are sane) humans i have ever seen or heard of.
Waceesle are Historically and even to this day the most educated and the most reer magaal (well, maybe not more reer magaal than the reer mataan, those guys are real beezaaniyal) sub-clan of Abgaal.
The Wacbuudhan are the bravest and worriors of Abgaal. The Harti are good at business and politics, especially after the war. But historically, it was Waceesle who dominated everywhere for Abgaal.
How is Harti Abgaal educated when all they gave us in the last 20 years are Cali Mahdi, Maxamed naaso Dheere, Sanbac Cali Jeelle? lol
Walaahi those guys are the dumbest (assuming they are sane) humans i have ever seen or heard of.
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Harti Abgaal are historically the leaders of Abgaal. Imam of Abgaal comes from Harti
Wacbudhan are the largest subclan
Waceysle are smallest subclan, and live in Galgaduud
Wacbudhan are the largest subclan
Waceysle are smallest subclan, and live in Galgaduud

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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
You are mostly right.Air Canada wrote:guhad
Waceesle are Historically and even to this day the most educated and the most reer magaal (well, maybe not more reer magaal than the reer mataan, those guys are real beezaaniyal) sub-clan of Abgaal.
The Wacbuudhan are the bravest and worriors of Abgaal. The Harti are good at business and politics, especially after the war. But historically, it was Waceesle who dominated everywhere for Abgaal.
How is Harti Abgaal educated when all they gave us in the last 20 years are Cali Mahdi, Maxamed naaso Dheere, Sanbac Cali Jeelle? lol
Walaahi those guys are the dumbest (assuming they are sane) humans i have ever seen or heard of.
Harti Abgaal are not more wealthy than Wacesley. Heck, there is no subclan within Somalia that can come any where near Wacesley. Within Harti Abgaal, it is mostly the Warsengali that are wealthy, but with Wacesley, almost every sub-sub clan has millionaires. If Dubai is any indicator of Somali wealth, then Wacesley is the easy leader. Harti Abgaal are mostly found in Kenya and South Africa, but even within Kenya, Wacelsey are easily ahead.
Traditionally, it is Waceley are Udeejen that are the most educated within Mudulood in terms of per capita. Wacesley were politically dominated during the times of government. From Gen Daud Abdulle Hirsi AUN to Gen Hussain Kulmiye Afrax, to Gen Salad Gabayr, to Dr Ismail Jimale Osoble to Dr Hussain Haji Bood, Wacesley is visible in Somalia's political landscape.
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Little correction:Shirib wrote:Harti Abgaal are historically the leaders of Abgaal. Imam of Abgaal comes from Harti
Wacbudhan are the largest subclan
Waceysle are smallest subclan, and live in Galgaduud
The Imam is not only the Imam of Mudulood, but the Imam of Hiraab.
Wacesley lives in Galgadud and Mudug ( Xaradheere all the way till the outskirts of Hobyo)
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Not true.guhad122 wrote:Twisted,
Why is the Harti Abgaal are more educated and all over the place than Weceysle? Any truth to that notion?
Wacesley are easily more educated than Harti Abgaal. Always been.
Wacesley are dominant in the Diaspora than Harti Abgaal. At least, to my knowledge.
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Are we discussing particular animal's variations here?
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Guhaad,
The war distorted the picture. Waceysle have always been the most prominent Abgaal clan. Unfortunately, their investment and promotion of Abgaal, Inc. has resulted in a decline of their influence resulting in the Harti Abgaal becoming more prominent now days.
The war distorted the picture. Waceysle have always been the most prominent Abgaal clan. Unfortunately, their investment and promotion of Abgaal, Inc. has resulted in a decline of their influence resulting in the Harti Abgaal becoming more prominent now days.
Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
As a Wacbuudhan,Waceysle historically were the bold and the courageous ones because of their wars with Murasade and other clans.But that has been shifted since 91.Harti Abgaal since then have the bragging rights.Waceysle faan era is over.Faan Harti Abgaal is here.
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
To which sunclan did Adan cadde belong to? And what is Hiraab?
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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
Twisted_Logic wrote:Air Canada wrote: Within Harti Abgaal, it is mostly the Warsengali that are wealthy,
Like father like son

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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
To be a good dariis is wajib, no one is doing anyone else a favour in that respect.
Ala Wacbudhanaaa, only they would believe faan Wacaysle, as for the rest of us we believe each sub-clan has stuff going for them.

Abdalle, Aden Cadde is Mudulood, his clan is called Udjejeen (sp?) his not abgaal, but abgaal is also mudulood. Hiraab is HG & Abgal.

Ala Wacbudhanaaa, only they would believe faan Wacaysle, as for the rest of us we believe each sub-clan has stuff going for them.

Abdalle, Aden Cadde is Mudulood, his clan is called Udjejeen (sp?) his not abgaal, but abgaal is also mudulood. Hiraab is HG & Abgal.
Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
we used to have abgal neighbours
Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
qoraxeey wrote:we used to have abgal neighbours

It's been proven that the more 'reer magaal/ilbax' people are, the better neighbours they make....so naturally abgaal are reer magaal people hence why they make the best neighbours.

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Re: Allahayoow Dad Lama Caasiyee Daris Abgaal baa leh
eyes-only wrote:qoraxeey wrote:we used to have abgal neighbourswow really?
It's been proven that the more 'reer magaal/ilbax' people are, the better neighbours they make....so naturally abgaal are reer magaal people hence why they make the best neighbours.



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