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Cirwaaq

Can you remember what life was like back in those days? Afweyne's final years?

My memory of Somalia starts in 1991 and ends in 1995, brother. The most violent time but as a kid you don't worry about it too much and life is always good.

I wanna give a shout out to baashi carab and qasaaye

Air Canada wrote:Cirwaaq

Can you remember what life was like back in those days? Afweyne's final years?

My memory of Somalia starts in 1991 and ends in 1995, brother. The most violent time but as a kid you don't worry about it too much and life is always good.

I wanna give a shout out to baashi carab and qasaaye

Indeed, b4 that you were wearing grass for clothing and using stones to break bones.

If the rebels were smart they would be in Mog right now drinking shaah. I still laugh when I them being refugees just like me

I was 3 years old when i last saw moqadishu... i don't even think the memories i have are truelly mine rather the things i have been told which somehow has been transmutated into memories that have attached feelings.

It is weird having nostalgic moments of memories that i don't even know are real.

I feel like i have less then those who have real memories.

HAWIYE INKAAR ALLA IDINKU RID,INKAAR WAAADABA QABTIINE, WAR WUXU INAYAR OO DAMIIR AH MA LAHA MIYAA? BALSIDAY CAASIMADDII AHAN JIRTAY IYO HADASIDA KADHIGEEN DAY.

Majority of the hawiye population alife today were either too young or born following the loss of the city and hence cannot be accused of the destruction. People like you destroyed what that city used to be it does not matter if you are Kikuyu or some subserviant of your hawiye masters it is that mentality that you have that is responsible...

Cirwaaq wrote:I was 3 years old when i last saw moqadishu... i don't even think the memories i have are truelly mine rather the things i have been told which somehow has been transmutated into memories that have attached feelings.

It is weird having nostalgic moments of memories that i don't even know are real.

I feel like i have less then those who have real memories.

You may have a point here Cirwaaq. Unfortunately for many their experiences are not theirs but rather a concoction of recycled history. How can you yearn for a place you have no personal attachment to? Are we a product of our tribal imagination or individuals in their own right? Those questions cannot be answered by me, since I cannot speak for others and their own particularism and take on history, but sometimes I think we need to self-depart from our instilled convictions, take a step back and make an honest assessment of its merits.

There is a great deal of fear attached to the abandonment of things that one has been conditioned to hold sacred. It is as though one is admitting defeat and submiting to a superior force that is invisible if they let go of their parents values and point of view. It is visble among all the forumers that many who have never even set foot on somali soil are conditioned to have a certain set point of view and value about how things should run and be in somali soil.

i see it as one further crime of the generation that has made us all refugees.

It is similar symptom to abduction victims feeling a sense of loyalty to their kidnappers, they are hesitant to divulge information on the one that has kept them a victim under a state of terror.

I can only pity the victims of the generation that has caused us many harms.

Cirwaaq wrote:There is a great deal of fear attached to the abandonment of things that one has been conditioned to hold sacred. It is as though one is admitting defeat and submiting to a superior force that is invisible if they let go of their parents values and point of view. It is visble among all the forumers that many who have never even set foot on somali soil are conditioned to have a certain set point of view and value about how things should run and be in somali soil.

Are you saying we are victims of parents/family indoctrination? Of course, we inherit our core values and norms from family but surely one can see the merits of such norms and values if they are skewed or bias. Do you not think people can think independently or at the very least question their social environment?

marcassmith wrote:

Cirwaaq wrote:There is a great deal of fear attached to the abandonment of things that one has been conditioned to hold sacred. It is as though one is admitting defeat and submiting to a superior force that is invisible if they let go of their parents values and point of view. It is visble among all the forumers that many who have never even set foot on somali soil are conditioned to have a certain set point of view and value about how things should run and be in somali soil.

Are you saying we are victims of parents/family indoctrination? Of course, we inherit our core values and norms from family but surely one can see the merits of such norms and values if they are skewed or bias. Do you not think people can think independently or at the very least question their social environment?

I can't see much appreciation of such independent thought among us.

WOW!! I can't say in my years here I've seen an honest and refreshing discussion on Somalia as the one between Marc and Cirwaaq here.

Xamar and all of Somalia can easily be rebuilt but the root cause of the Somali problem must be solved first.

Cirwaaq wrote:

marcassmith wrote:

Cirwaaq wrote:There is a great deal of fear attached to the abandonment of things that one has been conditioned to hold sacred. It is as though one is admitting defeat and submiting to a superior force that is invisible if they let go of their parents values and point of view. It is visble among all the forumers that many who have never even set foot on somali soil are conditioned to have a certain set point of view and value about how things should run and be in somali soil.

Are you saying we are victims of parents/family indoctrination? Of course, we inherit our core values and norms from family but surely one can see the merits of such norms and values if they are skewed or bias. Do you not think people can think independently or at the very least question their social environment?

I can't see much appreciation of such independent thought among us.

Indubitably

These people who destroyed Xamar and Somalia need to be rounded up and drowned in the Gulf Of Aden.

I would gladly help solve Somalia