Ramadan,Madhabs, Islam

[SultanOrder]

Bismillahi Rahmaani Rahiim

On Saturday I attended this pre-Ramadan course with my brother, going over on how you should prepare for ramadan but most importantly the guidelines you need to follow according to whatever madhab you follow so ofcourse I went to the shafici. Alhamdulilah it was very beneficial and I need the brother that was going over it very well, plus my local imam was attending it and he was very beneficial in it aswell. Lost of questions answered.

One brother this american convert who his child and him have asthma thought that when your fasting the inhaler would break your fast, so he would go hours with his airways tightened because he was afraid to break his fast. I was like masha'Allah the guy is very sincere in his deen. He was very happy to findout that in his condition it wouldn't break his fast if he had to take that medicine at that specific time and it would hurt him if he didn't.

Another important thing I learned was that in the shafici madhab you have to make intention for everyday you fast, or else your fast invalid, but in the maliki you can make one intention in the beginning of ramadan for the whole of ramadan and it will be valid. So, what he advised us to do was make one in the beginning following that hakam and make the intention to use that hakam, as well as making an intention everyday since its beneficial.

What I really liked and feel benefited me in particular was that according to maliki madhab the xaaqo doesn't break your fast. Now I don't swallow it but for some reason when I'm fasting it always becomes an issue for me, and I keep thinking my fast is broken because of it which always put me in turmoil. Now he advised me that I should use this ruiling since it is a legitemate ruling, and make the intention to follow it. Insha'allah may allah make ramadan easy for us and may we benefit from it.

The most beneficial thing I learned is that it is ok to use ruilings from other madhabs, just not pick choose parts of it but to follow the guidelines pertaining to that particular aspect. For example if you are going to follow that your wife doesn't break your wudu like the hanafis then you have to make your wudu like the hanafis. This opened my eyes since I was always a staunch supporter of just following one madhab for everything. Alhamdulilah allah has blessed this deen with being vast and the ruilings to be vast so as to encompass everyone that is the strength of our deen, and the vitality of it because we are not a monolithic deen.

[Firefly]

Sounds great. Why don't you post it in Generals Section too? More people will benefit, insha-Allah.

Jazakallah Kheyr.

Whats xaaqo?

[SultanOrder]

Well I was going to post it in the islam section but that area is dead, and the ones who participated are in this section anyway.

To many anti-madhabis in the Generals they'd just rip my whole thread apart for the fun of it

xaaqo, mucus, that stuff that aint saliva that comes from the back of your throat. you get it now

[Firefly]

Fair point..

Thanks!

[BlackVelvet]

I was trying to figure out the madhabs a while ago but I lost patience.


Do you guys have Islam Channel? They have an intentions dua that comes on every day before the fajr adaan and that pretty much sums up intentions. Oh and did anyone ask when someone should stop eating? I think you can eat until the adaan starts but someone told me last ramadan that you have to stop 10/15 min before...I don't believe them

[SultanOrder]

Good question we covered this since it was part of the lesson. The last moment one can eat is when fajr comes in, and people usually know this by hearing the adaan but here in the west we just look at the time everyone has posted at their house. But it is advised that you should stop eating 10 mins before which is usually the time posted before the fajr salat on those papers. The time after the 10min cut off and the fajr salat it is permissible to eat but you should really be stopping because it is cutting late, once the fajr salat comes in then you have to spit out what ever you are eating or drinking in the hanafi it is ok to swallow if it just something in your mouth. The cool thing about muslim countries is that they usually have two adhaans, one warning the muslims fajr is about to come in so finish up, and another second one which is the real one saying fajr has come in and you can't eat anymore.

An unrelated interesting thing is that if you see a muslim eating when they are suppose to be fasting during the day, you are not allowed to tell them 'hey stop eating your suppose to be fasting'. The reason being that it is very likely that they forgot, which that food is a sadaqa from allah for them lol. But if you see a new convert that is new to the religion it is ok to remind them.

oh yeah and if a man has sex with his wife when his fasting he has to fast for 60 consecutive days, and if he can't do that give out 60 two-hands-cupping portions of a base grain rice, wheat, cereal, barley etc to muslims for each day he has to make up or the equivalent in money. But the wife only has to make up that day she broke her fast for that act lool. And they say islam oppresses women. sheikh said if you can't control yourself first break your fast by eating or drinking something

[BlackVelvet]

I guess the assumption is that it's the man's fault.

I didn't know you're not suppposed to remind the person, thanks for the info. Another point Muslim guys should stop asking female Muslims why they're not fasting if they happen to catch her, it is the oddest conversation to have.

[SultanOrder]

No its a bit more technical than that shall I get graphic for you. For the women its like how if water goes in your ear, down your throat, in through your nasal cavatie, and apparently this is likened to that for her, so its not much of a atonement for her. But for the guy since it isn't like that, its considered much worse and thats why the atonement is very severe. So ladies don't seduce your husbands in a malicious atempt to take a break from cooking for three months, or to put him on a diet.

Those are some funny guys, I guess they don't have much contact with the opposite sex. Do they ask you why you get so angry for them asking afterwards too?

I'd recomend for everyone to brush up on the do's and do not's just to be on the safe side.

[BlackVelvet]

Nope you totally lost me with the explanation but I'll take your word for it anyway.

The guy who asked me, well I considered hitting him over the head lakin thought better of it. It's only happened once btw when girls want to eat during ramadan, not many would buy a sandwich and eat while walking down the road so it takes a very nosy and annoying man to get the opportunity to ask such a qeuestion in the first place.

Do's and don'ts good idea.

Don't push people out of the way during taraweex prayers

[SultanOrder]

dee halke hadalku ka maraa bv... I suppose knowing you only have to make up one day is enough info innit

lol the guy was asked about why there was confussing about taraweex prayer rakahs how some prayed 8 while others usually madhabis prayed 20. He was like taraweex was a bidca that umar ibn al khattab institutionalized during his caliphate for the muslims because before it was usually prayed in the homes, saying "what a good bidca this his", and the taraweex was 20 rakahs. The reason some pray 8 is because shaykh taymiyah narrated a hadith about a man who said "I use to come and pray taraweex with the rasul and prayed 8 rakahs." The guy narrated to us a hadith commentary about that man and it said he use to come late to the taraweex, to the last 8 rakahs. Aniguna qosal ba beerka igu dalaci gaaray. True story he wasn't kidding about the commentator.

[xiinle]

How do you make an intention? I dont get it.

[SultanOrder]

Intention is made first in the heart and confirmed with the tongue. You have in mind what you are going to do and why, and then you say 'I intend to fast the next day of ramadan, I intend to fast every day of ramadan, I intend to pray salat to isha, I intend to make hajj... etc' and you can always add for the sake of allah. That way if you unable to complete it because of unforeseeable circumstances you still get the reward of doing it.

[grandpakhalif]

PO my brother from an cagdheer mother your getting to
comfortable in here

[SultanOrder]

Bro, don't blow my game, they love me down here

[snoop12]

can you bring daliil because i think its a responsibility to remind your fellow muslim of their fast, particularly those you know.

another question, you said in muslim countries there is 2 adhans ? i always thought 1 adhaan and 1 aqim. when the adhaan starts you put away the food and prepare for 2 rakca of salaatul sunna, then aqim is for the compulsory salaat whether it be fajr or magrib.

as for tarawiix since i was kid i pray 8 rakca and 3 widr all 11 rakca as the prohpet(scw) did.