The ones wh spread Islam in Somalia how are they thanked?

[grandpakhalif]

The great shaykhs of past who made us Muslim are recompensed by the DEFECATION of their resting place by WAHAABI terrorists. Even the mutiqeen of the past are not free from EXTREMIST TERRORISTS who are destroying the very FIBRE of our society. The forefathers of past where one can freely practice TRUE islam without being Persecuted.

The well known Qadiriyah names in Somalia included Sheikh Abd Rahman al- Zaylai Shaykh (1820–1882 A.D) who spread the teaching in the Northern part parts of Somalia, and Shiekh Awes al-Baraawi ( 1804--1909 A.D)

That's why manta WE stood up against WAHAABI terrorists who seek to desecrate our Islam and are no better than ZIONIST DOGS

[Talo alle udaa]

Allaahuma culimadii dadka dacwada garsiiyay kheyrkooda inshallaahu wey hali, laakin waxyaallaah diinta islaamku ka hor imaanaya waxaa ka mid ah qabri ku dhexyaalla masaajid. waaya nabigu wuu cadeeyay diintu meeshay ka taagantahay in dadka salaaxiinta ah qabuur looga dhigo meelaha wax lagu caabudo

--It is proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “May the curse of Allaah be upon the Jews and the Christians; they have taken the graves of their Prophets as places of worship.” He said that as he was dying, as a warning to his ummah against doing what they did. When Umm Salamah told him of a church that she had seen in Ethiopia and the images therein, he said: “Those people, if a righteous man among them died, they would build a place of worship over his grave. They are the most evil of people before Allaah.” And it was narrated from Ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Among the most evil of people upon whom the Hour will come when they are still alive are those who take graves as places of worship.” Narrated by Imam Ahmad with a jayyid isnaad. --

Sh. boqolsoon on Shirk and Grave worship

[*Nobleman*]

Huh i'm I missing something here, were you not al shababs biggest fan and spokesman on snet or i'm i thinking of another nick?

Also please brother refrain from using the term 'wahabi'. You are basically labelling a group with one of the attributes/name of Allah swt. Many ulema have spoke out against this term and the manner it is used.

[grandpakhalif]

I agree graves worshipping is haram but we cannot simply desecrate graves because of misguided people

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Mujahidiinta Ahlusunnah wal jamaacah al mujahidiin are the best of mankind of our times fighting the worst of mankind
If they kill a khaariji they get reward and if they are killed by khaariji they get martyrdom. Subhanallaah


Brother grand, no one from ahlusunnah wal jamaacah worships a grave we worship only Allah swt. a false propaganda from the enemies of prophet Muhammad pbuh and his family.Its a sunnah to visit graves.

[LobsterUnit]

I agree graves worshipping is haram but we cannot simply desecrate graves because of misguided people

Did you know even uLEMA from the books of SHafici support such ant act?Listen to the lecture of Sheikh Mohamed Shibile and his clarification on the grave issue. He doesn't support shababs, but he agress with what they did. Lastly, the affairs you are going into is a not a game. These are issues of kufr, iman, al wala bara............ stay out for your own good..........a lil advice.

[S-D-M]

Mujahidiinta Ahlusunnah wal jamaacah al mujahidiin are the best of mankind of our times fighting the worst of mankind
If they kill a khaariji they get reward and if they are killed by khaariji they get martyrdom. Subhanallaah


Brother grand, no one from ahlusunnah wal jamaacah worships a grave we worship only Allah swt. a false propaganda from the enemies of prophet Muhammad pbuh and his family.Its a sunnah to visit graves.

I think you meant Mansha'allah.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

I agree graves worshipping is haram but we cannot simply desecrate graves because of misguided people

It is not desecration if the remains of the Culimaa is re-buried in an anonymous place. The deceased culimaa wouldn't want their graves to be turned into mowlac and revered (almost worshipped)

Waxay ku leeyihiin "ma caabudeyno laakiin waxaan u isticmaaleynaa as a Tawassul to Allah, something like a channel to God, when Allah (SWT) said "Wa ithaa sa'alaka cibaadii cannii, fa innii qariibun ujiibu dacwata daacii ithaa dacaanii" indicating the direct communication between the creator and his slaves.

[grandpakhalif]

Mujahidiinta Ahlusunnah wal jamaacah al mujahidiin are the best of mankind of our times fighting the worst of mankind
If they kill a khaariji they get reward and if they are killed by khaariji they get martyrdom. Subhanallaah


Brother grand, no one from ahlusunnah wal jamaacah worships a grave we worship only Allah swt. a false propaganda from the enemies of prophet Muhammad pbuh and his family.Its a sunnah to visit graves.

Wallahi our Prophet warned us about the Khawariij

Sayidina Ali(Radiallhu Anhu) narrated "I heard the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) as saying that as the Day of Qiyamah approaches there will appear a GROUP OF YOUTHS with a low mental capacity and understanding, apparently they will talk of good but their Imaan will not go beyond their throat and they will leave the true Deen like an arrow leaves the prey. Wherever you find them, you should make Jihaad with them. ( Sahi Bukhari)

[Talo alle udaa]

Imam ash-Shafii said: "I prefer that the soil used for a grave be no more than that dug for that grave. I like to see a grave raised above the ground the length of a hand or so. I prefer not to erect a structure over a grave or to whitewash it, for indeed this resembles decoration and vanity, and death is not the time for either of these things. I have never seen the graves of the Muhajirin or Ansar plastered. I have seen the Muslim authorities destroying structures in graveyards, and I have not seen any jurists object to this."[Kitabul Umm (Vol. 1, Pp. 246) ]


" Hazrat Jabbir [r.a] narrated that Prophet had forbidden ... from building structures and sitting over the graves.

[Muslim, Tirmidi, Mishkaat]"

Imam Nawawi [r.h] writes in the sharah of this hadees:

"To build a structure over the the grave if its owned, then its makrooh and if its common maqbara [shrine] then it's haram. It has been clearly mentioned by Imam Shafi [r.h] and others and Imam Shafi [r.h] said in his Kitaab al-Umm that I saw the Imams in Makkah ordering the removal of the buildings over the graves and this is supported by the hadees."






Those two quotes are from Imaam shaafici himself, and one of the biggest scholars of the shaafici madhab, Imaam Nawawi.




And finally this hadith (amongst many) from Saxiix Muslim



Book 004, Number 2115:
Abu'l-Hayyaj al-Asadi told that 'Ali (b. Abu Talib) said to him: Should I not send you on the same mission as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent me? Do not leave an image without obliterating it, or a high grave without levelling It.

This hadith has been reported by Habib with the same chain of transmitters and he said: (Do not leave) a picture without obliterating it.

There is whole chapter in Saxiix muslim dedicated to his topic

Kitab us-salaat
Chapter 47: FORBIDDANCE TO BUILD MOSQUES ON THE GRAVES AND DECORATING THEM WITH PICTURES AND FORBIDDANCE TO USE THE GRAVES AS MOSQUES

[Talo alle udaa]

Mujahidiinta Ahlusunnah wal jamaacah al mujahidiin are the best of mankind of our times fighting the worst of mankind
If they kill a khaariji they get reward and if they are killed by khaariji they get martyrdom. Subhanallaah


Brother grand, no one from ahlusunnah wal jamaacah worships a grave we worship only Allah swt. a false propaganda from the enemies of prophet Muhammad pbuh and his family.Its a sunnah to visit graves.

According to ahlu sunna scholars, you cannot have grave inside a mosque whilst people pray in them.

This is exactly what the prophet(saw) warned the people against, as you can see in this video, of a huge tomb inside the masjid of Imam hussein in cairo



To level such graves to the ground would be following the sunnah according to the father of Imam hussein (ra), who in saxiix muslim tells one of his military commanders who narrates such hadith to level to the ground all raised graves. Imam shaafici (ra) says the graves should be barely above the ground.


What you see above in the video is quite prevalent, and there are hundreds if not thousands of mosques in which there are graves, and the people who worship in such mosques, the direction of the qibla and the grave often coincide.


Here is another clip of the same mosque

[snoop12]

if your not 100% for them, your 100% againt them. Somali mentality 101, there is no such thing as compremising, common grounds, agree to disagree, etc these terms are nonexistent withing most Somalis. its a shame, because Somalis are great people.

[udun]

Bro/sis Talo alle udaa, thank you. May Allah reward you your efforts.

[The_Emperior5]

i love dikir its beautifull and nabi amaan

i am not sure about the graves and all graves can be visited but not to be worshiped there is quranic vers
which says

wama la kum min duunilahi min waliyihin wala naasir

only allah protects you not a wali or a dead sheikh

But dikir is beautiful and hadra

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

^asking from a dead person or making sujjud on graves is haram.
These are things that are done by ignorant sunnis and shias.

But an educated sunni/shia who has knowledge of the religion will never do so.