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Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:32 pm
by Voltage
Has anyone else noticed the increasing anger and hatred in American political rhetoric concerning Islam nowadays? I have to say I have not seen a climate this charged even after September 11, or a year later or two years later or 6 years later but now things seem to be increasingly hostile to Islam especially from the conservative right-wing.

Do you think Obama's election has something to do with it? It is not only about Muslims but about race and everything else. The whole rise of the tea-party is rooted in White Republican xenophobia and they went from lip syncing to standing up to "corrupt" Washington and trying to shed light on the deficits and taxes (something they did not do over 8 years of Bush's cronyism in which he exhausted Clinton's surplus for a massive debt and deficit) to transforming to "taking back my country" (coincidence this now we have the first Black president)? Basically the transformation of white racism and bigotry went from hiding behind legitimate issues surrounding the economy to finally unmasking their true xenophobic motivations and you can see this from the birther and Obama is not an American-born crap, to the Hispanic and 12th Amendment and immigration crap, and now to this charged atmosphere surrounding the ground-zero Mosque being built by private owners of the land with permit approved by local council which has given an excuse for the right-wing to bring out all the cloaked daggers they were waiting to ripe Islam and Muslims with in the national rhetoric. How can people who say a restaurant has the right to bar people on the basis of race because of "private ownership" and have voiced masked criticism of the Civil Rights Bill on this issue now cry about private owners of a land building on their privately owned land with building plan approved by the local council and the city? Pure hypocrisy or it is a limitation of their own assumptions about their position within this country where they assume the law should cater to them and no one else. After all, with exception namely those on the top using them like puppets, most of the adherents to the right-wing have as much as 7th grade education. :lol:

These bastards have to be fought and we need to fight them using the values and freedoms they say this country stands for that we ironically enough represent more now then their redneck, illiterate, incest-born heritage, ignorant, bigoted xenophobic existence. I for one am glad the builders of the ground zero Mosque have stuck to their plans through thick and thin and are going to show these bastards this is a battle about rights in this country and not emotions. Keep your emotions contained in your house and debate rights in the public atmosphere. Good job on them and the Imam Abdul-Rauf. :up:

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:02 pm
by grandpakhalif
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Isn't this unconstitutional?

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:35 pm
by udun
The biggest culprit in all of these is the media who is giving a platform to these idiots. In my view, hidden forces are driving the Islamophobia that is very much prevalent in the US nowadays. By keeping their anti Islam rethoric in the news, they are basically complicit in these endless attacks on the Islamic faith.

I have to disagree tough that Obama is not the 1st black president. Many of his buddies in Chicago calls him the 1st Jewish president. Whatever group that he is loyal to, what is clear is that he was supported and still backed by powerful forces in the US and all of the noise that the Tea pary goers are making won't do a jack to him. America and the west as a whole is run by "guys" whom the average westerner has no idea who they are.

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:55 pm
by ToughGong
Do you think Obama's election has something to do with it?
This has been going on for donkeys


Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:02 pm
by S-D-M
"I'm former judge" no wonder a lots of people were executed in Texas. How did this fool ever was a judge.

"I believe Gohmert and most Republicans are part of old Soviet experiment which planted defective DNA in the wombs of American women from 1946 to 1965." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:








ha, @ 8:05 "if they are over here illegally, they are not here legally" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:35 pm
by qardasay

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:09 am
by SomeGuy
voltage,

So what can you do about it, since you are poor refugee who is in need of food stamps and shelter? going back to Somalia---the shithole?. Kido, you need to tune down and mind your poor business(if any).


SomeGuy

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:17 am
by James Dahl
It's politics.

Republicans have no policy answers. They have no solution to the economy, no solution to the environment, no solution for the debt, no solution for the deficit, no solution for the US's wars.

What they have though, is fear. That's what it's about, making people afraid. Scared people don't think rationally and weight the pros and the cons, they act out of fear.

So they say that Muslims are out to get them, that Muslims dream of nothing else but dead Americans. They say that Mexicans want to steal their jobs, that Black people want to take over the country and the Labor Unions want to turn America into the Soviet Union. They say these things not because they are even remotely true or even logical, but because they will make people afraid.

BE AFRAID AMERICA! They say, BE VERY AFRAID!


Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:25 am
by yasmin
SomeGuy wrote:voltage,

So what can you do about it, since you are poor refugee who is in need of food stamps and shelter? going back to Somalia---the shithole?. Kido, you need to tune down and mind your poor business(if any).


SomeGuy
:lol:

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:44 pm
by FAH1223
James Dahl wrote:It's politics.

Republicans have no policy answers. They have no solution to the economy, no solution to the environment, no solution for the debt, no solution for the deficit, no solution for the US's wars.

What they have though, is fear. That's what it's about, making people afraid. Scared people don't think rationally and weight the pros and the cons, they act out of fear.

So they say that Muslims are out to get them, that Muslims dream of nothing else but dead Americans. They say that Mexicans want to steal their jobs, that Black people want to take over the country and the Labor Unions want to turn America into the Soviet Union. They say these things not because they are even remotely true or even logical, but because they will make people afraid.

BE AFRAID AMERICA! They say, BE VERY AFRAID!

Exactly

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:14 pm
by Voltage
udun wrote:The biggest culprit in all of these is the media who is giving a platform to these idiots. In my view, hidden forces are driving the Islamophobia that is very much prevalent in the US nowadays. By keeping their anti Islam rethoric in the news, they are basically complicit in these endless attacks on the Islamic faith.

I have to disagree tough that Obama is not the 1st black president. Many of his buddies in Chicago calls him the 1st Jewish president. Whatever group that he is loyal to, what is clear is that he was supported and still backed by powerful forces in the US and all of the noise that the Tea pary goers are making won't do a jack to him. America and the west as a whole is run by "guys" whom the average westerner has no idea who they are.
Brother let's not delve into conspiracies. Jews are almost always the first people defending civil rights in this country precisely because they know without these laws in place, they are not that far from the axe particularly with the rampant anti-Anti-semitism in the far right-wing. One Jewish group, the anti-Defamation League, stepped up to publicly oppose the Mosque and the first people to de-legitimize them and attack are Jews.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an independent Jew, has supported the Mosque plans more than 99.99% of Muslims and from what I read from the New York Times he feels very strongly on the issue precisely because of his background when his Jewish parents had to have their realter agent buy their house in his name because they were Jewish and couldn't do so. Jews know today Mosque, tomorrow Synagogue.

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:17 pm
by Voltage
S-D-M wrote:"I'm former judge" no wonder a lots of people were executed in Texas. How did this fool ever was a judge.

"I believe Gohmert and most Republicans are part of old Soviet experiment which planted defective DNA in the wombs of American women from 1946 to 1965." :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



ha, @ 8:05 "if they are over here illegally, they are not here legally" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lol @ the last point. I actually watched this live and that same quote cracked me up. I remember sarcastically saying "well if the sky is blue, blue is the color of the sky". :lol: :lol: Also the part about "I didn't know you were going to grill me". Anderson Cooper ma naxo :lol:

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:19 pm
by Voltage
SomeGuy wrote:voltage,

So what can you do about it, since you are poor refugee who is in need of food stamps and shelter? going back to Somalia---the shithole?. Kido, you need to tune down and mind your poor business(if any).


SomeGuy
You always have something to say without saying much. Bacaac is the word that comes to my mind.

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:20 pm
by Twisted_Logic
The atmosphere of racist rhetoric has increased with the election of Barrack Obama. A main victim of this change have been Blacks. Fox News and other Conservative media outlets have become provocative and assertive in their dissemination of their bigoted and racist narratives. Racist White folks are now empowered and encouraged to say what they have hitherto shied away from.

Re: Anti-Islamic rhetoric in the United States.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 6:24 pm
by Voltage
James Dahl wrote:It's politics.

Republicans have no policy answers. They have no solution to the economy, no solution to the environment, no solution for the debt, no solution for the deficit, no solution for the US's wars.

What they have though, is fear. That's what it's about, making people afraid. Scared people don't think rationally and weight the pros and the cons, they act out of fear.

So they say that Muslims are out to get them, that Muslims dream of nothing else but dead Americans. They say that Mexicans want to steal their jobs, that Black people want to take over the country and the Labor Unions want to turn America into the Soviet Union. They say these things not because they are even remotely true or even logical, but because they will make people afraid.

BE AFRAID AMERICA! They say, BE VERY AFRAID!
It is a travesty. But you know what? With the rate of demographic change combined with how the Republican party is alienating everyone else beside white southern conservative Republicans, I sleep easily knowing this party will become irrelevant around the next 15 years. They know this which is why they are attacking the 12th Amendment and birth right citizenship. Good luck! :lol: