DEBUNKING the Somali "Arab origin" myth

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DEBUNKING the Somali "Arab origin" myth

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Official DNA test results on a mixed group of Somalis (from every clan) has revealed that these findings:

We genotyped 45 biallelic markers and 11 STR systems on the Y chromosome in 201 male Somalis. In addition, 65 sub-Saharan Western Africans, 59 Turks and 64 Iraqis were typed for the biallelic Y chromosome markers. In Somalis, 14 Y chromosome haplogroups were identified including E3b1 (77.6%) and K2 (10.4%). The haplogroup E3b1 with the rare DYS19-11 allele (also called the E3b1 cluster ) was found in 75.1% of male Somalis, and 70.6% of Somali Y chromosomes were E3b1, DYS19-11, DYS392-12, DYS437-14, DYS438-11 and DYS393-13. The haplotype diversity of eight Y-STRs ('minimal haplotype') was 0.9575 compared to an average of 0.9974 and 0.9996 in European and Asian populations. In sub-Saharan Western Africans, only four haplogroups were identified. The West African clade E3a was found in 89.2% of the samples and the haplogroup E3b1 was not observed. In Turks, 12 haplogroups were found including J2*(xJ2f2) (27.1%), R1b3*(xR1b3d, R1b3f) (20.3%), E3b3 and R1a1*(xR1a1b) (both 11.9%). In Iraqis, 12 haplogroups were identified including J2*(xJ2f2) (29.7%) and J*(xJ2) (26.6%). The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya – with predominant E3b1 cluster lineages that were introduced into the Somali population 4000–5000 years ago, and that the Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa.

SO LET US BREAK DOWN THE TWO MAIN HAPLOTYPES:

E3B1: the E1b1b (formerly E3b) genetic haplogroup also makes up the bulk of the paternal DNA of Ethiopians, Eritreans, Berbers, North African Arabs, as well as many Mediterranean and Balkan Europeans.[33] The M78 subclade of E1b1b is found in about 77% of Somali males, which may represent the traces of an ancient migration into the Horn of Africa from the upper Egypt area.

K2: only 10% of Somalis have this, is also typically found among populations of Northeast Africa, North Africa, the Near East and the Mediterranean.

NOW FOR THOSE WHO STILL WANT TO CLAIM ARAB DESCENT FROM THEIR MOTHER SIDE, THEN THERE WAS A MATERNAL DNA TEST ON SOMALIS AND THESE WERE THE RESULTS:

A large proportion of the maternal ancestry of Somalis consists of the M1 haplogroup, which is common among Ethiopians and North Africans, particularly Egyptians.

Somali, as a representative East African population, seem to have experienced a detectable amount of Caucasoid maternal influence... the proportion m of Caucasoid lineages in the Somali is m = 0.46 [46%]... Our results agree with the hypothesis of a maternal influence of Caucasoid lineages in East Africa, although its contribution seems to be higher than previously reported in mtDNA studies.

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Eu J of Hum Genet (2005) 13, 856–866
The Levant versus the Horn of Africa: Evidence for Bidirectional Corridors of Human Migrations," American Journal of Human Genetics 74:532-544, 2004
.D. Holden (2005), MtDNA variation in North, East, and Central African populations gives clues to a possible back-migration from the Middle East, Program of the Seventy-Fourth Annual Meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists (2005
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Re: DEBUNKING the Somali "Arab origin" myth

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After the Month of Ramadhan I dont want to hear no more Shaykh Darood nonsense an Shaykh Isxaaq. Infact Somalis have more eurasian dna in their maternal side so instead start claiming Habar Darood al or Habar Isxaaq or Madam Darood or Madam Isxaaq. Since there is no chance you had an Arab forefather.

Sorry for the heartbreak :lol:
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So my original assumption was correct. Somalis are descendent of the love child between cleopatra of Egypt and Anthony of Rome. :clap:
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Re: DEBUNKING the Somali "Arab origin" myth

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So are you saying that i am not Arab descendant. :lol:
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Re: DEBUNKING the Somali "Arab origin" myth

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Anthony kulahaa :lost:

Zidane, unfrotunately Im sorry to break the bad news in the holy month :lol:
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