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One interesting point about the recent kerfuffle over recent genetic testing pointing towards a native origin for Darood is that there is in fact a version of Darood's abtiris that puts Samaale as the father of Ibrahim (or al-Jaberti).

This raises an interesting point in that there is a son of Samaale, named Yaabur. Only one of Yaabur's sons is accounted for, that being Ali, who's son Hubeer is the epynomous ancestor of that branch of the Somali people.

Yaabur is obviously a different word from Jaberti But of course Y in the somali alphabet is not Y in english, Y corresponds with J in the English alphabet.

So in Arabic Yaabur becomes Jābur

But of course Jābur is a name, so for someone to be for instance the son of Jābur, he would be ibn al-Jāburi, however that is in the present tense, in the PAST tense, it would be ibn al-Jāburti. So if we were to say for instance "Isma'il, son of Ibrahim (formerly, past tense) called Yaabur" in Arabic that would be Isma'il ibn Ibrahim al-Jaburti.

We know already that the sons of Yaabur had Arabic names (Ali for instance), is it completely outside the realm of possibility that Yaabur became a Muslim, took the name Ibrahim, and Isma'il ibn Ibrahim is his son?

bla-bla-bla

James,
when will u give up and acknowledge that tribes r mere political parties and genealagy is their political program?
arab linked genealogy ==>arabisation as political program
pure negro genealogy===> bantu supremacist political program

B.

ILMA JACBUR

And this guy thinks he can fool us by saying he is caadan.

Hold on, so that would make us the brother of IRIR? Nooooooooooo

So, let me get this right. Darod are Somali through their mom side? What about Isaaq?

Jaberti raximuallah was a man from Yemen who can very well be carrying E1b1 genes he then encountered the natives and taught them how to build advanced houses for their time. He then gained the name "Stone Enclosement" or Darood and inter married with the local population.

all this talk about genetics needs to stop
james dahl go make love to your wife and stop this somali obsession you have.

the day they say im related to Irir's the day i will stop being Somali

He was an Irish man who fled from the British.

CoolPoisons wrote:the day they say im related to Irir's the day i will stop being Somali

Technically, you can't be a Somali unless you descend from Irir Samaal, so you are not even a Somali

I honestly thought Irir was something that was invented in early part of the 90s.

seriously? Yabur and Sabur And ajuraan? What the hell!