My Proposals for 'better somaliland'

[HooBariiska]

This section has become to the qabyaalad section of somalinet. Anyways i wanna discuss some ideas, that could move the nation forward

My Proposal for better somaliland

1 - Every family living abroad must pay taxes. Singles too.
How much? $1000 a year.
what if they dont: entry to somaliland refused.

if we tax say 50,000 somalilanders living aborad ....thats $$$50,000,000.
Am sure our good citizens in the UK can cover that alone

2 - Compulsory Army Service - 1 year (locals only).

3 - Spend bigger on the Army - Join the black market, buy second hand from Russia, China, Iran etc

4 - Introduce 'work for the shilling' scheme. Unemployed ppl are employed by the government, clean up, buildin trees

5 - Improve the judicial system - harsh penalties for anti-dhaqan behaviur, banned terms like 'midgaan', mandatory 1 month jail

6 - Introduce 'Green Somaliland' scheme - Somalilands response to Global Warmin, introduce measures to reduce 'dhuxul dependency', reduction in trees

7 - Tax Reforms - Bigger & Established Firms to pay more taxes i.e Dahabshiil, Telcos

8 - Health Reforms - Reforms in Pharmacies, so they are accredated. Reforms in hospitals so they can work together.


9 - Education Reforms: One national education system. I dont like the current format (form 5, 6 etc). Basic Year 01 -06 - Primary School
Year 07-year 12 Highschool. Results in year 12 determines Entry Scores. Universities will use Year 12 results to accept/refuse students


those are just ideas, most probably not feasibly @ the moment

[AsadSL]

The sending money part isn't bad. The Eritrean community have also adopted this idea. But we need a trust-able government or all this is no use.

[Siciid85]

^^^ Indeed i second that we need to see if the government can be trusted first.

[The_Emperior5]

you can set up a gudi of somaliland sheikhsa who are trustworthy they can spend that money on the goverment make sure it doesent go in the wrong pockets

[Executive]

Good ideas, here are my 2 cents.

If diaspora is send money back to Somaliland, this program needs to closely monitored. To try eliminate curroption, there should be an Independent audit committe consisting of mainly diaspora and religous leaders.

And the funds should be used for development of all the regions e.g Burco, Las Anod, Erigavo etc and not be centralised or used as adminstration cost by the government.


The army doesn't need more money, Its just a waste. The locals need it more. Why are you going to send so much on the military when you can't provide basic public services? That money should go for development and job creation.

[Keyse_0208]

1 - Every family living abroad must pay taxes.

2 - Compulsory Army Service - 1 year (locals only).

3 - Spend bigger on the Army - Join the black market, buy second hand from Russia, China, Iran etc

Specially the Compulsory Army Service , every young man from the age of 18-19 should be enrolled, including girls, similar to ertirea, ready to be called out if needed in less than 24-hours.

The army doesn't need more money, Its just a waste.

Exec, trust me man, as much as i would like to agree with you, if the main people who are responsible for securing your security aint happy and well funded, you cannot have the peace and jobs that you've mentioned. it all starts from the Army. Be all you can be

[Knight of Wisdom]

Doesn't RECOGNITION come FIRST?

All of this money and infrastructure, and employments, and tree building will all be to no avail, if Somaliland is NOT recognized as a country.

Basically, the Isaaq community around the world will be building NORTHERN SOMALIA for the "future" Government of SOMALIA

Either it's a loss to the Isaaq diaspora or an achievement for them, because...technically speaking, if Somaliland is NOT recognized, than NORTHERN SOMALIA belongs to every somali clan. From the Jareer to the Bantus to the Eelays of Southern Somalia to the Ogadens in Western Somalia, all will over crowed the peaceful, prosperity regions of the NORTH


RECOGNITION FIRST

Taxes, after

[The_Emperior5]

Doesn't RECOGNITION come FIRST?

All of this money and infrastructure, and employments, and tree building will all be to no avail, if Somaliland is NOT recognized as a country.

Basically, the Isaaq community around the world will be building NORTHERN SOMALIA for the "future" Government of SOMALIA

Either it's a loss to the Isaaq diaspora or an achievement for them, because...technically speaking, if Somaliland is NOT recognized, than NORTHERN SOMALIA belongs to every somali clan. From the Jareer to the Bantus to the Eelays of Southern Somalia to the Ogadens in Western Somalia, all will over crowed the peaceful, prosperity regions of the NORTH


RECOGNITION FIRST

Taxes, after

but we will never unite with somalia our goverment
Considers Somalia a neighbouring country and it will do so after this government there will be another after that another so Somaliland will be building it self’s and if the diaspora takes a huge role in that then that’s fine its building Somaliland’s future, not that of somalia

[ToughGong]

- Health Reforms - Reforms in Pharmacies, so they are accredated. Reforms in hospitals so they can work together.

Very good idea Timo Case

[Knight of Wisdom]

but we will never unite with somalia our goverment
Considers Somalia a neighbouring country and it will do so after this government there will be another after that another so Somaliland will be building it self’s and if the diaspora takes a huge role in that then that’s fine its building Somaliland’s future, not that of somalia

So, hypothetically speaking a STRONG government is formed in SOMALIA, and the United Nations, European Union, the United States and the International Community all supports it, and recognizes as the legitimate GOVERNMENT of Somalia (North and South). What will you do after that?

Take up arms, and fight against it? If that's the case, then all you have build in the North (Somaliland) will be destroyed [AGAIN].

If, you support it, then, you have basically done the work for the government of "SOMALIA" , which it should have done in the North (Building roads, and etc).


So, my question is, if "Somaliland" never gets recognized, and a STRONG central government is build, WHAT THEN?

[The_Emperior5]

but we will never unite with somalia our goverment
Considers Somalia a neighbouring country and it will do so after this government there will be another after that another so Somaliland will be building it self’s and if the diaspora takes a huge role in that then that’s fine its building Somaliland’s future, not that of somalia

So, hypothetically speaking a STRONG government is formed in SOMALIA, and the United Nations, European Union, the United States and the International Community all supports it, and recognizes as the legitimate GOVERNMENT of Somalia (North and South). What will you do after that?

Take up arms, and fight against it? If that's the case, then all you have build in the North (Somaliland) will be destroyed [AGAIN].

If, you support it, then, you have basically done the work for the government of "SOMALIA" , which it should have done in the North (Building roads, and etc).


So, my question is, if "Somaliland" never gets recognized, and a STRONG central government is build, WHAT THEN?

Lets say in a few years Somalia becomes peaceful and has a functioning government , and asks Somaliland to summit to their rule, do you really think a country that just got their shit back together will go war with another country Somalia was waiting for 20 years of peace do you think they will jeperdise it and go war with Somaliland. SNM could not be stopped by Siad bare who was backed By the superpowers what makes you think a new government that is yet to be formed can form a threat to us, Somalia is forced to accept Somaliland independence if not , then they can bring it on Somaliland is ready to defend its land from any aggressor.

Now let me ask you a question do you think somalia will go war with somaliland after fighting so hard for the peace of somalia do you think they will go war with somaliland?

[Mr_Alfaas]

but we will never unite with somalia our goverment
Considers Somalia a neighbouring country and it will do so after this government there will be another after that another so Somaliland will be building it self’s and if the diaspora takes a huge role in that then that’s fine its building Somaliland’s future, not that of somalia

So, hypothetically speaking a STRONG government is formed in SOMALIA, and the United Nations, European Union, the United States and the International Community all supports it, and recognizes as the legitimate GOVERNMENT of Somalia (North and South). What will you do after that?

Take up arms, and fight against it? If that's the case, then all you have build in the North (Somaliland) will be destroyed [AGAIN].

If, you support it, then, you have basically done the work for the government of "SOMALIA" , which it should have done in the North (Building roads, and etc).


So, my question is, if "Somaliland" never gets recognized, and a STRONG central government is build, WHAT THEN?

Thats IF...which will neva happen,am sure ur question goes out to qashinka

[Knight of Wisdom]

Lets say in a few years Somalia becomes peaceful and has a functioning government , and asks Somaliland to summit to their rule, do you really think a country that just got their shit back together will go war with another country Somalia was waiting for 20 years of peace do you think they will jeperdise it and go war with Somaliland. SNM could not be stopped by Siad bare who was backed By the superpowers what makes you think a new government that is yet to be formed can form a threat to us, Somalia is forced to accept Somaliland independence if not , then they can bring it on Somaliland is ready to defend its land from any aggressor.

Now let me ask you a question do you think somalia will go war with somaliland after fighting so hard for the peace of somalia do you think they will go war with somaliland?

Okay, I didn't say "Go to war"

First, you must understand, 2/3 of the Somali population resides in the SOUTH. That's practically almost all of the Somali clans (Dir iyo Daarood). Secondly, if Somalia becomes peaceful again, and a central government is created, the strength of the Military would be tremendous, due to the weapons it will be supplied to by the International Community, not to mention, almost every clan in the South will be part of that Military.

Even the Gedobursi, Warsangeli and Dhulbahante clans of the North will take part in it.

Remember: SNM defeated the Somali government lead by Siad Barre, because Somalia's clans were separated. It was each clan for himself, not to mention the USC (Hawiye) allied with the SNM, cause the defeat of the government, whom itself was divided.

So, if USC (hawiye) teams up with all the clans of Somalia (Excluding Isaaq, of course), would it make any sense for the Isaaq clan to have a WAR with the rest of the Somalis, for the sole purpose of having "SOMALILAND" as a country, even though it has been denied by the International Community?

[The_Emperior5]

The snm was only the Isaaq clan family The clans Gadabuursi and harti were not included . the thing is if the international community supplies the future government of Somalia with arms that still doesn’t mean the People of Somalia support a war with Somaliland , they know they want to have peace because so long they have waited for peace , I think Somalia’s government will be wise to remain within their territories raskamboni raas caseer . kingdom let me tell you something it’s not about what the international community wants it what the people of Somaliland want, The same way today Alshabaab isn’t supported by the world and only a Solution with in can solve it, now hypothetically speaking do you think Somalia including hawiye dir raxanweyn darod will go war with Somaliland are they ready to lose man power in Somaliland a land they are not welcome ?

[Knight of Wisdom]

The snm was only the Isaaq clan family The clans Gadabuursi and harti were not included . the thing is if the international community supplies the future government of Somalia with arms that still doesn’t mean the People of Somalia support a war with Somaliland , they know they want to have peace because so long they have waited for peace , I think Somalia’s government will be wise to remain within their territories raskamboni raas caseer . kingdom let me tell you something it’s not about what the international community wants it what the people of Somaliland want, The same way today Alshabaab isn’t supported by the world and only a Solution with in can solve it, now hypothetically speaking do you think Somalia including hawiye dir raxanweyn darod will go war with Somaliland are they ready to lose man power in Somaliland a land they are not welcome ?

Well, if Dir, Darod, Raxanweyn, and Hawiye all say that SOMALIA is ONE, then of course they will want to rule from Seylac to Ras Kambooni.

Now, the question is, would the Isaaq clan allow a Central Government of Somalia as their government, or will they take up arms and fight against SOMALIWEYN?

Remember, Somaliland (Northern Somalia) is inhabited by 6 different clans.