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“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; you feed him for a lifetime''paidmonk wrote: Educating hungry people is, well, stupid.
Knight of Wisdom wrote:LOL
Is that the Jewish Candelabra ceremonial object that is used to hold the Candles in the bottom of the Symbol for the UNIVERSITY OF HARGEISA?
In this analogy, there aren't fish nor even water in Somalia. First, Somalia needs water before the man can learn how to fish for a commodity that doesn't even exist yet. You get it now? There is nothing available for Somalis after they get an education. Would you teach a man to fish in the desert, no right? That's what you're doing by teaching Somalis in a 4th world economy how to properly file taxes and build bridges. They don't need bridges if they don't have anywhere important to go. There is NOTHING right now, Somalis are at the bare beginnings of a civilization.marcassmith wrote:“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; you feed him for a lifetime''
Europe has its own unique history. Their historical trajectories cannot be replicated across the board. Here in Europe, universities were established in the Medieval ages, why do you think churches become synonymous as places of enlightenment and knowledge in a time of social, political and economic upheaval.. Its not like universities randomly sprung up after the industrial revolution. Universities are a stimulus for social change. They are the embodiment of the people and symbols of enlightenment and progression.paidmonk wrote:No its not. Work is the backbone of every society.
Back in the 18th and 19th century when Europe was moving into the industrial age, everyone worked in the factories and in fact the majority of the workforce in most countries were children since they didn't have the means to import cheap labor. The east Asian economies were all originally based on hard manual labor, good examples being Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong. Even in America there was no necessity for a bachelor's degree in the workforce just a generation ago. Education is a luxury and Somalia does not need it. Somalia needs income. You can't apply the rules of a rich, declining nation like your current one to a country that hasn't even started to live.
You're right that Europe had its own unique path for success, but its path worked for them as well as the east Asian states I mentioned. I think the same path can work for Somalis. I've already stated that most Somali university students don't take themselves seriously, they are only in school to build a network that will allow them into Europe. If that doesn't prove the failure then I don't know what you need to see. The fact that Somalis depend so heavily on remittances prove there are no jobs. What is an education without a job??marcassmith wrote:Europe has its own unique history. Their historical trajectories cannot be replicated across the board. Here in Europe, universities were established in the Medieval ages, why do you think churches become synonymous as places of enlightenment and knowledge in a time of social, political and economic upheaval.. Its not like university randomly sprung up after the industrial revolution.
paidmonk wrote:In this analogy, there aren't fish nor even water in Somalia. First, Somalia needs water before the man can learn how to fish for a commodity that doesn't even exist yet. You get it now? There is nothing available for Somalis after they get an education. Would you teach a man to fish in the desert, no right? That's what you're doing by teaching Somalis in a 4th world economy how to properly file taxes and build bridges. They don't need bridges if they don't have anywhere important to go. There is NOTHING right now, Somalis are at the bare beginnings of a civilization.marcassmith wrote:“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; you feed him for a lifetime''
My statement was a metaphor that was playing off your metaphor.marcassmith wrote:You shouldn't take it literally. Its a metaphorical statement sxb.
These countries were forced into submission to industrialise. Look at Japan thriving both economical and militarily before 1945. Now it can't defend itself against North Korea. Japan, really, is just a point of reference in the global networked economy - that is United States of America dominated world economy. But, times are changing. The Chinese, Indians and many emerging middle income countries (Brazil, Mexico, South Africa etc) are changing the economic reality or better yet reconfiguring years of western hegemony. Furthermore, they are using their own organic methods of achieving growth. Not those engineered policies in the IMF and World Bank and other global institutions, in other words, Western institutions of manipulations.paidmonk wrote:You're right that Europe had its own unique path for success, but its path worked for them as well as the east Asian states I mentioned. I think the same path can work for Somalis. I've already stated that most Somali university students don't take themselves seriously, they are only in school to build a network that will allow them into Europe. If that doesn't prove the failure then I don't know what you need to see. The fact that Somalis depend so heavily on remittances prove there are no jobs. What is an education without a job??marcassmith wrote:Europe has its own unique history. Their historical trajectories cannot be replicated across the board. Here in Europe, universities were established in the Medieval ages, why do you think churches become synonymous as places of enlightenment and knowledge in a time of social, political and economic upheaval.. Its not like university randomly sprung up after the industrial revolution.
paidmonk wrote:My statement was a metaphor that was playing off your metaphor.marcassmith wrote:You shouldn't take it literally. Its a metaphorical statement sxb.
