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Re: New cave-paintings-found-in-Somaliland !!

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5000 years o;d wow
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And effing Brittain gets the credit,that's the thing with having a duel nationality
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Such is the quality of the paintings that at least 10 of the sites are likely to be given World Heritage status.
Wonderful News.
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wow would love to see this one-day...The whole Somali peninsula region is I think full of these rich archeological sites.
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xamm11 wrote:5000 years o;d wow
Murax wrote:Origin

There are a few theries as to Darod's origin. Some claim him to be an Ethiopian slave that escaped from the Hijaz and ran to Somalia, while others say Darod was just a Somalian and not an Arab. Others even say that Darod was descedend from Yemeni streetsweepers known as Jabarti; majority of Islamic historians and modern historians however find no connection to Darod and these Yemenese streetsweepers, they could however been descended from Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Al Aqeeli's other children. Moreover, the most authentic and most widely held belief is that Darod was born in the metropolitan Islamic city known as Jabarta to a Banu Hashim Shiekh.

The 9th century Islamic writer, Al- Masudi wrote in his Aquiline book ( the descendants of the prophet Mohammed's young cousin Aqeel Ibn Abu Talib) that several Quraish sub-clans moved to to the city of Jabarta and the Zeila region around the ninth century A.D. Some key sub-clans include Banu Shams, Banu Abd Manaf and Banu Hashim. From the Banu Hashim, many Aquiline settlers lived in Jabarta such as Ahmed Ibn Husein Ibn Ali Al-Jabarti, Ahmed Ibn Omar Al-Zayli and most importantly he mentions the sufi Qadiriyah sheik Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn Abdisamad Al-Aqeeyli Al-Zayli who is considered a Sufi saint in Yemen, the father of Darod(Abdirahman) the man most modern Darood claim have descended from. This sufi sheikh also had other sons -who all carry the surname "Jabarti"- where their tribes can be found in Southern Yemen, Eriteria, and parts of Saudi Arabia.

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The majority of Darod clan members claim to be descendants of Muhammad ibn Aqil, son of Aqeel ibn Abi Talib. Aqeel ibn Abi Talib was the second of four sons of Abu Talib ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib, who was the uncle and protector of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad. Abu Talib during those early days was head of the Banu Hashim. The Darod have strong tribal relationships with the other Hashemites.

According to early Islamic books and Somali tradition, Muhammad ibn Aqil's descendant Abdirahman bin Isma'il al-Jabarti, a son of the Sufi sheikh of the Qadiriyyah Order, was born in Jabarta, northeastern Somalia in either the 9th or 10th centuries AD, where he took the daughter of the Dir chief as his wife. Darod was also good friends with Sheikh Isaaq bin Ahmed al-Hashimi, another Banu Hashim who came to Somalia around the same time and is also the father of another clan in Somalia known as Reer Isaaq.I.M. Lewis, "A Modern History of the Somali", fourth edition (Oxford: James Currey, 2002), p. 22]

The Darod were supporters of Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi during his 16th century conquest of Ethiopia, especially the Harti and Marehan sub-clans, who fought at the Battle of Shimbra Kure. [Sihab ad-Din Ahmad bin 'Abd al-Qader, "Futuh al-Habasa: The conquest of Ethiopia", translated by Paul Lester Stenhouse with annotations by Richard Pankhurst (Hollywood: Tsehai, 2003), pp. 50, 76]
These two gentelmen came to Somalia recently.

So, who left these cave-paintings!. Well they were the ancestors of E-V32 carriers!

"the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya (Boranas)" and that their gamma cluster lineages "probably were introduced into the Somali population 4000–5000 years ago"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E1b1b1a_(Y-DNA)
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Great find, I hope they can uncover some rich Somali history
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Image
a human worshiping a cow :|
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I posted something v.similar to this a week ago but in the Sland section.

The new cave paintings were found mostly in Togdheer and Sanaag.

I hope they discover more interesting things
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seemeyer wrote:And effing Brittain gets the credit,that's the thing with having a duel nationality
The UK is the country that she lives in, was educated in (and probably paid for her education) and whose passport she uses to travel freely throughout the world. Surly the UK should be the nation that gets the credit and not Somalia, which is only her ethnic homeland.
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intresting
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union wrote:
seemeyer wrote:And effing Brittain gets the credit,that's the thing with having a duel nationality
The UK is the country that she lives in, was educated in (and probably paid for her education) and whose passport she uses to travel freely throughout the world. Surly the UK should be the nation that gets the credit and not Somalia, which is only her ethnic homeland.
She's actually Somali-Swedish.. but she gained her degrees in the UK and is now UK based.
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abdihalim
please keep isaac out of your alternate history
isaaq was born in the late 1100's
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Great findings. Lets hope this will be a logical reason why SL should be recognized.
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Qubbato wrote:Hutuking they will never be recognized the majority of Somalis don’t want secessionist to break away majority rules minority rights , but this painting looks fake by the way probably painted by some cuqddad ridden secessionist

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