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Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:35 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
I was searching the net and found this article about some white dude called John Drysdale. Apparently he's a british guy who came with the colonials and has been working in somaliland/somalia ever since, he now lives in hargeisa and has written a book about somalis called 'What ever happened to Somalia'.
On Wednesday afternoon during the January 2009 trip to Somaliland we met with a man who is likely to have more experience and insight into Somalia than any other foreigner. John Drysdale came to Somaliland in 1943 as a young British officer when the colonial powers were locked in battle, not only on the Continent, but throughout East Africa. Britain controlled present day Somaliland, including the strategic port of Berbera on the Gulf of Aden, not far from the Red Sea and the Suez Canal. Italy controlled the South and Central part of Somalia, with headquarters in Mogadishu.

Drysdale came at time when troops from the colonial possessions were sent to fight in other theaters, under British officers. Soon after he went to Burma with a Battalion of Somali Scouts, the unit took heavy casualties fighting the Japanese, and was disbanded on return to Somaliland. After the war, Drysdale stayed on in Somaliland as a member of the colonial administration, and was there when Somaliland received its independence from Britain in 1960. At that point the Somaliland government made a fateful mistake, joining the former Italian colony in newly formed Republic of Somalia with the capitol in Mogadishu.

He continued to find postings in Somalia and served as advisor to three Somali prime ministers before Siad Barre took power. After the fall of the dictator, he returned as advisor to three UN Special Representatives, including Admiral Jonathan Howe of UNOSOM II. He was in Mogadishu in July 1993 when the US attacked the compound of Mohamed Farah Aidid, he was highly critical of the actions of the UN and the US, and later included his comments in his book “What Ever Happened to Somalia.” He told us that his most important book was “Stoics Without Pillows” describing the pastoral culture of Somalia, both books are available on Amazon.com.

Drysdale believes that Somaliland is more stable than the South because of the contrast between the colonial administrations of Britain and Italy. The Italians sent the key Somalis off to be educated in Italy, and when they came back they formed the basis of the bureaucratic class. He said the Italians would only deal with people in “suits and ties” and refused to recognize the authority of the elders, believing them to be uneducated. In Somaliland the British involved the elders in government, and today the independent Somaliland legislature includes an upper house of elders with significant power.

During his early years in Somaliland Drysdale made the decision to learn the Somali language, he became distrustful of his interpreters and found it would be the only way to understand the culture and political interaction. Today he lives quietly in Hargeysa, walks slowly with a cane and runs a company called Cadastral Surveys. He obtains government grants to survey farms in Somaliland, employs 35 Somalis, and has provided the first records of ownership and titles to more than 13,000 farmers. This new system has reduced conflict in rural areas and has been welcomed by the locals and the government. I told him that he has probably done more positive things for Somalia than any other foreigner.
Ileen odaygu wuu iska soomaaliyoobey :lol:

That first bold part is interesting what do you guys think about that I mean that's the first time I've heard about it. Discuss

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:38 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
BTW here's his picture:

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I'm glad we influenced him and I hope he reverted he seems like a cool guy :mrgreen:

Edit: Actually he did revert to islam and his name is Abbas Idriis masha'allah :up:

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:41 pm
by Sakhraan
he voted for Muj Ahmed Siilaanyo. :sland: :up:

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:42 pm
by Cumar-Labasuul
Sakhraan wrote:he voted for Muj Ahmed Siilaanyo. :sland: :up:
:up:

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:12 pm
by *Nobleman*
I dont know about him living in hargeisa, pretty sure he lived in gabile when I went back.

Reer gabile use to call him john dress for some reason. I use to hear his name all the time but never seen him in real life.

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:24 pm
by Advo
Somalis and their obsession with cadaans

coonery on a steroids smh

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:28 pm
by xoogSADE14
Advo wrote:Somalis and their obsession with cadaans

coonery on a steroids smh
These same skinnies spreading their cheeks for this white guy will spit on a Somali Bantu ( whose family have been Muslims for generations) just for looking at them.

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:32 pm
by Advo
xoogSADE14 wrote:
Advo wrote:Somalis and their obsession with cadaans

coonery on a steroids smh
These same skinnies spreading their cheeks for this white guy will spit on a Somali Bantu ( whose family have been Muslims for generations) just for looking at them.
I remembering Sahangalbeed saying he once diverted a group of people wanting to Kill bantu construction workers for no reason. SMH we claim to be proud people but infact are insecure @ heart.

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:44 pm
by xoogSADE14
Soomaali midabka cas ineey aqalo lagu caabudo udhistaan wax yar ayeey u jiraan. Anyone who tells you different is a damn lier.

From curry eating Indians to crackers and Arabs. Anything that doesn't remind us of our own blackness I guess.

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:50 pm
by Advo
:lol:

Few days ago, someone posted a colonial Article written by a racist dude basically saying black= ugly, white beautiful and that qabiil x had an elder with Caucasian features while qabiil y did not. it was cringe worthy seeing how proud that person became .

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:19 pm
by senoritaa
xoogSADE14 wrote:
Advo wrote:Somalis and their obsession with cadaans

coonery on a steroids smh
These same skinnies spreading their cheeks for this white guy will spit on a Somali Bantu ( whose family have been Muslims for generations) just for looking at them.
And these same people welcomed Somalis from all backgrounds to live in Somaliland to escape the chaos and war in the south..

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:26 pm
by senoritaa
ooooh one white guy living in Somaliland = arse kissing of white man by isaaq people with inferiority complex

while whole scale adoration of Italian language, culture, fashion, cathedrals, roman catholicism, pizza in south somalia is normal :?

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:46 pm
by *Nobleman*
xoogSADE14 wrote:
Advo wrote:Somalis and their obsession with cadaans

coonery on a steroids smh
These same skinnies spreading their cheeks for this white guy will spit on a Somali Bantu ( whose family have been Muslims for generations) just for looking at them.

Sad reality of life walahi. The darker one is the more inferior people consider them. From arabs that believe the lineage is ruined when mixed with darker people but celebrate when they marry a white, blonde haired blue eyed european, to somalis at weddings who consider the bride folxume because she is darker toned, with harder hair.

Being in carabha for the last month I saw so much uncle tom shit that made me laugh, only to see somalis are just the same. Just look at how many derogatory names we have for bantu people compared to how many we have for lighter somalis. sad

Re: Who's heard of this guy

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:51 pm
by xoogSADE14
Nobleman

This is a sad reality from Raas kambooni to Raas Caseeyr. We're all self-haters even though few will admit it.

Senorita

There are some things bigger than qabiil. This is one of them.