Kililka 5aad - few undisputed facts

[Runloow101]

Last few days, the illigitimate sons of BucurBacayr (The Guda+biirsi) were flatering their xafajo souls and comparing themselves to the mighty Isaaq nation.

In this particular thread, I would like to state few undisputed facts.

1. Isaaq has 3 Federal Representives while Gudobiirsi had nothing before 2010 election. In 2010 election, one Gudabiirsey naanaab stole a seat that belonged to Ciise and as such sent their first ever Federal parliamentarian to Addis. The three Isaaqi Representatives are Sacad Muuse, Idagala (Aware) and Habar Yoonis (Gashanmo).
2. Isaaqi land mass in Ethiopia is 10 times bigger than that of Gudo+biirsi
3. Isaaqs settle some major towns including Harta sheekh, Aware, Gaashaamo, Wajaale, Harshin, Danot etc. Harta Sheekha alone is twice as big as Aw Barre, the largest GudoBiiris settlement in Ethiopia.

With those facts alone, comparing GudoBiiris to Isaaq is like comparing Nepal to China.

Here is the list of Federal reps before last election. The clan proportion is some what the same with few exceptions like Gudobiiris gaining one seat and Ciise losing one of their four seats.


The Gudabiiris land is same or less than that of Sacad Muuse.



This bullshit about AwBarre having 340,000 population and 260,000 of those voting is beyond believable.How could that be possible!!! Does that mean even 3 month-old infants were allowed to vote. Plus, AwBarre has 70,000 more people than Jigjiga woreda, come on!! This aerial survey method they conducted in the Somali zone is lacking credibility. The same damn survey records AwBare town has more people than a city twice its size(Harta-Sheikh).

One last thing about AwBare district is why didn't those numbers translate into federal parliamentary seats! There was no single Federal rep before last election for the Indha-xabaglayaasha.

Here are Cagdheers complaining the AwBarre joke claiming it to be a political rather than a geniune population estimate..
http://www.xaajo.com/newsdetails.php?st ... 1229254909&

[RuralMan08]

The United Nations Central Statistics Agency has reported that Awbare is over 339, 000 and you have disputed it yet you bring no evidence to the table.

The map that you have drawn has left out Denbel which is a pure Samaroon zone. Why did you leave it out?

There is no point of me repeating myself, the verdict has been done, the evidence produced, there is no doubt left that Samaroon outnumber Isaaq i kilinka shanaad by miles.


No point of making another thread based on outdated sources lol.

I have produced a 2007-2008 census that the Ethiopian government SENT direct to the UN.

Notice the word GOV in the URL, indicating it is a government website:

http://www.csa.gov.et/pdf/Cen2007_firstdraft.pdf


There is NO douubt concerning my sources. It is from the UN, the same international body you are begging to recognise Somaliland

So ALL in ALL

My evidence = United nations
Your evidnece = A phony map you wrote with your own hands.
Typical mirqaan iidor

[RuralMan08]

Ogadenis can complain all they want, there is no way you can dispute facts and the fat is our land is the most densely populated.

[Runloow101]

Ogadenis can complain all they want, there is no way you can dispute facts and the fat is our land is the most densely populated.

Xafajo son of Bucur-Bacayr,

There is something fishy about that AwBarre #s. First of all the census taken in Somali zone was not registeration. The METHOD used to estimate these numbers are "Aerial survey". No doubt this method favors you since Xafajo are Qodaal and live as farming communities but not by much since Jibriil Abokor are Qodaal too.

Just to give you an example of how ridiculous this area survey estimates are, Harta Sheekha is twice as big as Aw Barre. According to the survey, the population of those two towns are 36,000(Aw Barre) & 22,000 (hartasheikh). The other things you didn't explain are why those huge numbers didn't translate into federal seats. Secondly, how on earth is it possible to have 260k votes out of a total population of 340k. The most developed and the beacon of so-called democracy is the United States and around 30% of the 300 Million population vote in presidential elections.

One last thing to show you how this type of census taking is unreliable, The Liban region was once recorded to have 900k - 1 million population, making it the 2nd most populous Somali region. But in the last few stats taken, it shows close to 500k or half of what they estimated in early nineties.

[RuralMan08]

^^ I see that jealousy and pure envy has reached its peak with you. Shall I tell you how, perhaps you dont understand how the electoral system works in Ethiopia. Votes are usually casted not seperately, thats only done in presidential elections (which never happens). In district elections, those parties who have not voted but weey cod bixiyeen are also counted. This type of electoral system voting has a name but I dont quite remember, when I do I shall tell you.

In regards to the population of Awbarre, you seem to be confusing Awbare district and Awbare town. The population of over 339, 000 is in regards to the WHOLE district not just the town. The district of Awbare includes, Awbare city, lafaciise, sheedh-dheer, dharwanaaje xeero-geel etc.

It is quite insulting that you compare harta sheik (refugee camp) to a big city like awbare.


Nevertheless, I have given you direct statistics from a government website, I dont care if you believe it or not. I just put the record straight and now everyone knows that Samaroon outnumber Isaaq by a large margin in Ethiopia it aint even funny.

Lose the cuqdad and the envy dude! You CANT argue against a government website DIRECT from the Ethiopian government loooool dumb iidor





Beenlow, I have brang statistcs, maps, direct government quotes.

At least bring some evidence instead of saying: "But howw, whyyy, how, whyyy" That is not evidence!

[EEGA9]

The whole settlement system is a creation to hold Cagdheer down, this is how it works.This argument wouldnt happen if settlement were created without political motivations.

Take that red-line from Dagaxbuur to Jigjiga road thats dhulka faafaneed sxb, Ogadeen and then Abaskuul settelment...push that line up Awaare and push it up north from the road and you have Isaq settlement areas.I dont know about Samaroon exactly no comment, Ciise 90% of Shinile.From the numbers Samaroon is big

[RuralMan08]

The whole settlement system is a creation to hold Cagdheer down, this is how it works.This argument wouldnt happen if settlement were created without political motivations.

Take that red-line from Dagaxbuur to Jigjiga road thats dhulka faafaneed sxb, Ogadeen and then Abaskuul settelment...push that line up Awaare and push it up north from the road and you have Isaq settlement areas.I dont know about Samaroon exactly no comment, Ciise 90% of Shinile.From the numbers Samaroon is big

Denbel is part of Shinile and it is 100% Samaroon. So its wrong to say that it is 90% ciise, what about the Gurgure? How could you forget about them? Sxb you need further education about Shinile. Plus the Eastern Ayshaca and Eastern Shinile woredas are both purely Samaroon. Perhaps you didnt understand it properly bro.

[EEGA9]

I dont have that much information on Shinile waa runtaa, So I could be wrong but thats what I heard from Cise folks and Gurgure I forgot they are also apart of Gobolka.

[RuralMan08]

I dont have that much information on Shinile waa runtaa, So I could be wrong but thats what I heard from Cise folks and Gurgure I forgot they are also apart of Gobolka.

Anyway the myths have been cleared concerning Kilinka shanaad. For more information read this:

viewtopic.php?f=245&t=255753

[bareento]

Wat percentage do Ogadenis make in Ogadenia, population wise ?
40, 50 %?

B.

[EEGA9]

Rural I got it Sxb LOL.

B.

Ethiopian Goverment says 50% but we dont believe them, I say 60% and 70% if you say Absame.

[Runloow101]

Take that red-line from Dagaxbuur to Jigjiga road thats dhulka faafaneed sxb, Ogadeen and then Abaskuul settelment...push that line up Awaare and push it up north from the road and you have Isaq settlement areas.I dont know about Samaroon exactly no comment, Ciise 90% of Shinile.From the numbers Samaroon is big

Eegga-kada,

Did you just say "take your thing out of my cagdheer ass".

I was very conservative when I marked that map. Don't forget Kebri-Bayah is 65% Axmed Cabdalle section of Sacad Muuse. Jidka ayaa kala qaybiya magaalada. IF GudoBiiris numbers are confirmed that means the cagdheer number shrinks from 24% to around 15% of Zone 5.

[EEGA9]

Alrite

[Runloow101]

^^ I see that jealousy and pure envy has reached its peak with you. Shall I tell you how, perhaps you dont understand how the electoral system works in Ethiopia. Votes are usually casted not seperately, thats only done in presidential elections (which never happens). In district elections, those parties who have not voted but weey cod bixiyeen are also counted. This type of electoral system voting has a name but I dont quite remember, when I do I shall tell you.

In regards to the population of Awbarre, you seem to be confusing Awbare district and Awbare town. The population of over 339, 000 is in regards to the WHOLE district not just the town. The district of Awbare includes, Awbare city, lafaciise, sheedh-dheer, dharwanaaje xeero-geel etc.

It is quite insulting that you compare harta sheik (refugee camp) to a big city like awbare.


Nevertheless, I have given you direct statistics from a government website, I dont care if you believe it or not. I just put the record straight and now everyone knows that Samaroon outnumber Isaaq by a large margin in Ethiopia it aint even funny.

Lose the cuqdad and the envy dude! You CANT argue against a government website DIRECT from the Ethiopian government loooool dumb iidor





Beenlow, I have brang statistcs, maps, direct government quotes.

At least bring some evidence instead of saying: "But howw, whyyy, how, whyyy" That is not evidence!

Why would I envy a despised Xafajo adeer. You completely ignored my questions
If I zoom in Awbare in my google earth, it says "Somali Refugees at Taferi Bir". Is this the refugee camp you were referring to. I know the difference between the "Awbare woreda" and the Awbare town. I was saying how come the same source you are qouting had 35k for Awbare and 22k for Harta Sheekha when every one who knows how to use google earth/map knows Harta Sheekh is twice as big. Don't force me to post the maps again silly cunt.

One additional note, Not that it makes any difference but It seems AwBare is not 100% Sabkaroon waayo as I closely look the map of the district, I see it includes Wajaale and Southern Wajaale where there are huge Jibriil Abokor settlements.

[Blue_609]

nothing is funnier than seeing this pathetic ISXAAR minority of the bucur bacayr dynasty desperately trying to distract attention
from his extremely laangaab statues in ethiopia by promoting false and baseless claims and calls it 'facts' !

im actually laughing while im looking at this thread

1. Isaaq has 3 Federal Representives while Gudobiirsi had nothing before 2010 election. In 2010 election, one Gudabiirsey naanaab stole a seat that belonged to Ciise and as such sent their first ever Federal parliamentarian to Addis. The three Isaaqi Representatives are Sacad Muuse, Idagala (Aware) and Habar Yoonis (Gashanmo)

i see when u got cornered by the Census and data we provided, u decided to run to the federal seats as if it gonna help u
nevertheless, i will refute this silly claim too.. the federal representatives that a clan got doesn't mean shit and has nothing to do with clan size
in a certain area.. this is politics and whos good at it will get more.. so from your prospective Oromo should have been the ruling party of ethiopea
since they are the largest ethnic group huh

2. Isaaqi land mass in Ethiopia is 10 times bigger than that of Gudo+biirsi

saudi arabia is 20 times larger than Bangladesh.. yet its 20 times less populated.
again land size is not directly proportional with the population, if u only went to school u would ve known this.. Isxaar's land is larger but its deserted too just like Saudi arabia (refer to the map posted earlier)

3. Isaaqs settle some major towns including Harta sheekh, Aware, Gaashaamo, Wajaale, Harshin, Danot etc. Harta Sheekha alone is twice as big as Aw Barre, the largest GudoBiiris settlement in Ethiopia.

these are not major towns they are tiny towns.. Aware and Gashamo is 95,000 each. Harshin is 80 Danot is 47. ur largest is Kebri byaha in which u only compose 1/2 of pop. ( and im being too generous) .
all in all u Isxaars dont make up even 300,000



here u go, ur silly claims are refuted go play with yourself now isxaar kid.