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In the past five years alone, Somali Minnesotans have established about 1,500 businesses, according to local estimates. That figure is nearly incomprehensible in Sweden, where the Somali community is largely struggling and out of work.

The tale of these two communities raises an obvious question: Why do so many Somalis in the United States seem to be thriving, while their counterparts in Sweden continue to languish?

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This week, a Swedish delegation of government officials and scholars is touring Minneapolis to find the answer.

Seeds of their historic visit were first planted in 2005 when a Swedish professor named Benny Carlson traveled to Minnesota and was struck by the sheer number of booming markets and malls run by Somali-Americans in the Twin Cities.

He vowed to return with a team of government officials to use Minnesota as an example of what can be done in Sweden.

Besides meeting with local Somali-American business leaders, the entourage has met with Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak and other city officials to discuss planning and economic development issues. They'll also pay a visit to the American Swedish Institute and learn about Minnesota's changing demographics from state officials.

Refugees began arriving in both Minnesota and Sweden in the early 1990s, after civil war broke out in Somalia. Minnesota has the largest Somali population in the country, numbering 70,000, according to some estimates.

In Sweden, a second wave of refugees has arrived in recent years.

While many Somalis quickly established their own shops in Minnesota, their counterparts in Sweden have not enjoyed the same success.
On Monday, the Swedish delegates reported that 60 to 70 percent or more of the Somalis in Sweden are unemployed. Delegates pointed to Sweden's heavy regulations on businesses and a lack of business education for new arrivals as part of the problem.






http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2010/Oct/m ... ccess.aspx
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And the shocking truth Somalis in other parts of Europe are even way behind or worst than Somalis in Sweden.

In America its either work or go to school or do both at the same time, or start your own business. in Europe though, they get some free house and money and most ppl don't think, they just suck on the cayr, while doing fadhi-kudirir @ coffee shops and in Paltalks.
Also there is a bit of discrimmination in europe, where Somalis and other immigrants are treated like refugees and not like citizens, so they are segregated from the larger community.

Very impressive stuff and positive news indeed.

Its different systems... Americans really hate government in its hands on everything... cause it is seen as a weakness to being self sufficient. But at the end of the day, you still need to have a balance...

Then begins the question of Capitalism vs Socialism. That is why i am a Fox News fan, and maybe a Pseudo Republican. I am all for raw, unadulterated Capitalism. I hate Socialism and government dominance. But beside the glaring economic differences---the Swedes and Americans have a huge culture difference. If you drink Swedish water-- u r more proned to depression.(i can proove that somali swedes are proned to depression. Speak to anyone who has a family and sibling in sweden and u will hear they are not in touch with them.they are lost in the air, isolated and medicine druged at worst) Sweden has the highest suicide and depression. Somali Swedes are different from the rest of western somalis. They tend to be anti social, withdrawn, more civilized and enlightened yes, but i suppose less authenticly somali-iish. While American Somalis have not evolved at all. Walk into any Minnesota or Colombus ohio mall with somali restaurant at close proximity, and you will be regailed with an orchestra noise of baasto chewing sound. It is truly deafening and disgusting. American Somalis have not evolved at all because-- they have created their own community- mogadhishu. Americanism encourages individuality-- and the raw, street qaaaq spitting flight 13 Mali man is congratulated and accepted as an individual. Yes, u can say the capitalism--has helped somalis open many businesses and venue wherre somalis can meet and interract therefore redusing the depression and suicide inclinations. A somali is by nature a nomad---he cannot survive in isolation. He needs his own savage kind, his own noisey kind to prosper or be happy.If the Swedes wants a Minnesota type somali same kind of a mali mall store--they need to invest in capitalisn and less government. Simple as that. Go republicans.

There is a reason America is called the land of opportunity and Europeans have been
immigrating here for centuries. There isn't much in Europe and American Somalis will continue to be ahead of Somali Europeans.

Basra- wrote: Then begins the question of Capitalism vs Socialism. That is why i am a Fox News fan, and maybe a Pseudo Republican. I am all for raw, unadulterated Capitalism. I hate Socialism and government dominance. But beside the glaring economic differences---the Swedes and Americans have a huge culture difference. If you drink Swedish water-- u r more proned to depression.(i can proove that somali swedes are proned to depression. Speak to anyone who has a family and sibling in sweden and u will hear they are not in touch with them.they are lost in the air, isolated and medicine druged at worst) Sweden has the highest suicide and depression. Somali Swedes are different from the rest of western somalis. They tend to be anti social, withdrawn, more civilized and enlightened yes, but i suppose less authenticly somali-iish. While American Somalis have not evolved at all. Walk into any Minnesota or Colombus ohio mall with somali restaurant at close proximity, and you will be regailed with an orchestra noise of baasto chewing sound. It is truly deafening and disgusting. American Somalis have not evolved at all because-- they have created their own community- mogadhishu. Americanism encourages individuality-- and the raw, street qaaaq spitting flight 13 Mali man is congratulated and accepted as an individual. Yes, u can say the capitalism--has helped somalis open many businesses and venue wherre somalis can meet and interract therefore redusing the depression and suicide inclinations. A somali is by nature a nomad---he cannot survive in isolation. He needs his own savage kind, his own noisey kind to prosper or be happy.If the Swedes wants a Minnesota type somali same kind of a mali mall store--they need to invest in capitalisn and less government. Simple as that. Go republicans.

abayoo your an idiot shall I tell you how tho?

PO and u r in love with me.

leave it to Basra, to turn a positive thing, into a negative thing.

Ironman..... How did i turn a positive thing into a negative thing? I merely stated facts that makes the Minnesotan Somalis more prosperous than The Swede Somalis. IS that negative ?

Basra- wrote: PO and u r in love with me.

fine, live in darkness to your idiocy

PO

Ok..fine.... Tell me why i am an idiot?

inyo

^yeah but you know you laughed