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State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Somalia
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:03 pm
by The_Emperior5
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:48 pm
by Somalian_Boqor
iidoor boy get it right! It's Puntland, Somalidiid iyo TFG.

Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:51 pm
by The_Emperior5
Somalian_Boqor wrote:iidoor boy get it right! It's Puntland, Somalidiid iyo TFG.

The pirate state and the TFG is one

The repuplic of koonfuria
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:08 pm
by Cirwaaq

More Northern somalia and Koonfur state.
State strategy is to unite the northern somalis by making them dependent on handout while at the same time infilterating your every fabric of social cohesion and dismantle you from the inside.
You are nothing more then a simple pet project best of luck

Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:12 pm
by The_Emperior5
Cirwaa america has its own policy towards somalia and africa but somaliland doesn't really care about the American policy because we have our own, and our own agenda Somaliland has nothing to do with Puntland or majeerteenia the pirates are tied to what happeneds in mogadisho and that will stay that way
but we welcome America how they congratulate us for our democracy , but we do not really care if Alshabaab takes over Mogadisho or not
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:17 pm
by Voltage
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:20 pm
by The_Emperior5
sorry the Americans did not mention Barre hiiraale and his jihaad in Beled xaawo they mentioned Ahlu sunna but not huuraale

Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:22 pm
by shitguy
Somaliland had a glimpse of hope for recognition few years back but all that went of the daqaad when hiiran, galmudug and the rest started breaking away one after the other

Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:26 pm
by The_Emperior5
shitguy wrote:Somaliland had a glimpse of hope for recognition few years back but all that went of the daqaad when hiiran, galmudug and the rest started breaking away one after the other

those clan mamuul you mentioned are not there to break away yet just small clan states for the federal TFG. that's it , Somaliland is the only one that broke away from Somalia.
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:27 pm
by Maroodijex
Amb. Johnie praised Somaliland's elections which he said was better than many recognised countries - i.e. Ethiopia, Kenya etc.
Mr Johnie also commended the former President of Somaliland Mr. Daahir Rayaale Kaahin for his statemanship during his tenor on the helm and his acceptance when he was defeated.
Mr. Johnie says that USA will deal with Somaliland like a typical independent country without recognising its independence. He attributed the reason why USA won't recognise Somaliland as part of its
policy to follow the lead of the AU on that question.
On the Pirate land, he said that Majeerteniya needs to to do more to combat piracy in their land and also address nepotism and corruption and follow Somaliland's lead in democracy.
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:28 pm
by Voltage
I live in America. Do you think even the smallest desk officer of the lowest branch of any department in government is concerned with the primitive movements in a faraway poverty stricken desert land. The US hasn't even considered whether to "recognize" or not because you don't matter. U.S doesn't see Somalia's regions..what Somalia's regions are to us, Africa's states are to the U.S. You are just another village in one small region of the greater picture. You can meet the Queen one day, Netanyahu the next...cry, yell, celebrate, stick your ass out but at the end of the day it only matters what comes from Washington and Washington has already decided on Somalia and spread to the world, there will be one capital in that part of the world and her name is Mogadishu. It has been 20 years now and even when Somalia was most hopeless you didn't get any traction anywhere. If a state can recognize out of it's own national security, such as keeping allies in Nile war with Egypt, or her own desire to dismember Somalia and break up the Somali state Ethiopia would have done but even Ethiopia has had it's president visit Baydhabo, has had it's president visit Jowhar and twice in Muqdisho along with other visits by its foreign minister just in the last four years. Has your best friend in secession even sent it's highest leadership to visit "peaceful" Hargeisa once?
Wake up and smell the coffee and if you notice why
no one debates Somaliland issues anymore on generals or generally among Somalis, it is because the truth is clear to us so go take this stuff to your province section and keep the hype going.

Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:36 pm
by Voltage
I live in America. Do you think even the smallest desk officer of the lowest branch of any department in government is concerned with the primitive movements in a faraway poverty stricken desert land. The US hasn't even considered whether to "recognize" or not because you don't matter. U.S doesn't see Somalia's regions..what Somalia's regions are to us, Africa's states are to the U.S. You are just another village in one small region of the greater picture. You can meet the Queen one day, Netanyahu the next...cry, yell, celebrate, stick your ass out but at the end of the day it only matters what comes from Washington and Washington has already decided on Somalia and spread to the world, there will be one capital in that part of the world and her name is Mogadishu. It has been 20 years now and even when Somalia was most hopeless you didn't get any traction anywhere. If a state can recognize out of it's own national security, such as keeping allies in Nile war with Egypt, or her own desire to dismember Somalia and break up the Somali state Ethiopia would have done but even Ethiopia has had it's president visit Baydhabo, has had it's president visit Jowhar and twice in Muqdisho along with other visits by its foreign minister just in the last four years. Has your best friend in secession even sent it's highest leadership to visit "peaceful" Hargeisa once?
Wake up and smell the coffee and if you notice why
no one debates Somaliland issues anymore on generals or generally among Somalis, it is because the truth is clear to us so go take this stuff to your province section and keep the hype going.

Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:37 pm
by The_Emperior5
Voltage wrote:I live in America. Do you think even the smallest desk officer of the lowest branch of any department in government is concerned with the primitive movements in a faraway poverty stricken desert land. The US hasn't even considered whether to "recognize" or not because you don't matter. U.S doesn't see Somalia's regions..what Somalia's regions are to us, Africa's states are to the U.S. You are just another village in one small region of the greater picture. You can meet the Queen one day, Netanyahu the next...cry, yell, celebrate, stick your ass out but at the end of the day it only matters what comes from Washington and Washington has already decided on Somalia and spread to the world, there will be one capital in that part of the world and her name is Mogadishu. It has been 20 years now and even when Somalia was most hopeless you didn't get any traction anywhere. If a state can recognize out of it's own national security, such as keeping allies in Nile war with Egypt, or her own desire to dismember Somalia and break up the Somali state Ethiopia would have done but even Ethiopia has had it's president visit Baydhabo, has had it's president visit Jowhar and twice in Muqdisho along with other visits by its foreign minister just in the last four years. Has your best friend in secession even sent it's highest leadership to visit "peaceful" Hargeisa once?
Wake up and smell the coffee and if you notice why
no one debates Somaliland issues anymore on generals or generally among Somalis, it is because the truth is clear to us so go take this stuff to your province section and keep the hype going.

lol you living in America you knowing American policy we know the American policy towards somalia it's not a secret to any one , Dude somalia is a failed state so is that mogadisho you talk about the US no that that's why they continue this fake TFG idiotic adventures policy nothing will change in the next coming years For Mogadishu and uncle Hiiraale will run from gedo to Kenya and then back to Ethiopia. to fight new sectarian factions all over again. that's your fate and future , as for the President of Ethiopia Mr girmu lol he does not even come out of his presidential palace i think you mean Melez zanawi since when is it a big achievement that Melez visits baydhabo or Mogadisho just to tell Geedi to resign and give Gen gabre his last Military orders to slap yey lol , And as for somaliland is not debated in the general section of somalinet loooool whats there to debate about a peaceful country does any one debate Djibouti in the generals lol
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:42 pm
by The_Emperior5
Maroodijex wrote:Amb. Johnie praised Somaliland's elections which he said was better than many recognised countries - i.e. Ethiopia, Kenya etc.
Mr Johnie also commended the former President of Somaliland Mr. Daahir Rayaale Kaahin for his statemanship during his tenor on the helm and his acceptance when he was defeated.
Mr. Johnie says that USA will deal with Somaliland like a typical independent country without recognising its independence. He attributed the reason why USA won't recognise Somaliland as part of its
policy to follow the lead of the AU on that question.
On the Pirate land, he said that Majeerteniya needs to to do more to combat piracy in their land and also address nepotism and corruption and follow Somaliland's lead in democracy.
yeah thats what he said Somaliland aid will be doubled next year 200 Million dollars Will go to somaliland and thats Just United Nation Aid.
Re: State Department: A Dual-Track Approach Somaliland & Som
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:45 pm
by Dhaga Bacayl
Voltage wrote:I live in America. Do you think even the smallest desk officer of the lowest branch of any department in government is concerned with the primitive movements in a faraway poverty stricken desert land. The US hasn't even considered whether to "recognize" or not because you don't matter. U.S doesn't see Somalia's regions..what Somalia's regions are to us, Africa's states are to the U.S. You are just another village in one small region of the greater picture. You can meet the Queen one day, Netanyahu the next...cry, yell, celebrate, stick your ass out but at the end of the day it only matters what comes from Washington and Washington has already decided on Somalia and spread to the world, there will be one capital in that part of the world and her name is Mogadishu. It has been 20 years now and even when Somalia was most hopeless you didn't get any traction anywhere. If a state can recognize out of it's own national security, such as keeping allies in Nile war with Egypt, or her own desire to dismember Somalia and break up the Somali state Ethiopia would have done but even Ethiopia has had it's president visit Baydhabo, has had it's president visit Jowhar and twice in Muqdisho along with other visits by its foreign minister just in the last four years. Has your best friend in secession even sent it's highest leadership to visit "peaceful" Hargeisa once?
Wake up and smell the coffee and if you notice why
no one debates Somaliland issues anymore on generals or generally among Somalis, it is because the truth is clear to us so go take this stuff to your province section and keep the hype going.

But you tend to wake up at 1 pm in Seattle when Washington DC closed down for the day. Which means that you’re always a day late.
