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Somali Regimes mistake.

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Was to use the latin script as the basis of written language. It was a terrible mistake, and we should of used the arabic one, but instead they fell for the western illusion. :down:
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Turkey is doing alright!
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Perfect_Order wrote:Was to use the latin script as the basis of written language. It was a terrible mistake, and we should of used the arabic one, but instead they fell for the western illusion. :down:
your wrong, Latin scrip was the best joice for somalia because if we chose Arabic script it would have cost Somalia millions of dollars because of paying new printing machines, but Latin thanks to our official languages Italian and English wichs writing like somali Latin script, somalia the country Had already lot of Latin script machines so it was the best choice of the country for Latin script.
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Perfect_Order wrote:Was to use the latin script as the basis of written language. It was a terrible mistake, and we should of used the arabic one, but instead they fell for the western illusion. :down:

Wallahi you know what PO I've been thinking that for years
Mind you it was a plan by the western Emperial forces to cut off the the Arabic scripts of many countries.
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I also agree, Arabic would've been a lot better. I don't know why Somalis got stuck up, Arabic is used in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan as well. Was Siad Barre using Latin Script just to show that Somalia was "unique" - GREAT, lets just use or former colonialists' script over the big bad Arabs. Dumb logic and its costing Somalis many problems in the Arab world today.
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Re: Somali Regimes mistake.

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wouldn't it be too costly for a poor country to use the arabic script? what are the benefits of using the arabic script as opposed to the latin one?
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95% of Somalia's trade has historically been done with Arabs, all of our relations are among Arabs and near-eastern countries that are familiar with Arabic. Just look at Central Asia and Eastern Europe, the bulk of them use Cyrillic for good purpose, they only deal with one another and it makes things smoother. I don't know what Somalia's poverty has to do with what scrip it uses, poor or not we hardly deal with countries that use Latin script. China, India and Arabia have always been the extent of our trade and social network and none use Latin script.
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Latin script was the best interest of the country when af soomali was writing 1972, schools,government administrations, universities already use italian and English as a official language, if Somalia decided to change and Arabic script then you would need to buy lot of new printing machines, and lot of teachers to teach student how to write Arabic, and even structure of Somali language it will be very difficult to use arabic script because of long vocals like
AA EE II OO UU, those long vocals you can not easily use Arabic script , you will need totally new dots ! "´`, so Somali language is not like Arabic which do not have lot of AA, EE II OO UU.

and ARABIC script Had nothing to whit Islam because before even prophet muxamed scw was born arabic script was used in ARABIA and bersshia, AND even it was not Arabs who invented arabic script, its was assyrians script in the beginning, and later Arabs adopted what we call today ARABIC scripts.
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Berke wrote:wouldn't it be too costly for a poor country to use the arabic script? what are the benefits of using the arabic script as opposed to the latin one?
The Imperialist/Colonialists wantedto replace the Islamic alphabet with their own. Destroying the Arabic alphabet is part of a larger conspiracy to destroy all Islamic traditions, beliefs and they were succesful in that.Having an Arabic alphabet would have,idealy,given us a different world view,becuase of the acces to Islamic litrature
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Seemeyer I have the same opinion that it was a conscious policy of cutting the muslims from the arabic script and the Quran.

Navy Turkey was forced into secularism and the west. If you look at Modern day Turkey compared to modern arab countries today, you could make that assertion to a degree. But if we look at that Turkey was the center of the muslim world politically, economically, educationally; then from that perspective of Turkey now and Turkey over hundred years ago no they are not doing too well.

Yalaxoow small price and it could easily of been brought from the middle east. Plus we already had arabic ones no doubt. We could of had a literacy jump faster than the latin script and at a natural way that was already part of the peoples conscious.

Paid- we followed the path of colonized people, nothing unique about that at all.
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yalaxoow arabic also has long vowels that isn't inherient in the latin script :lol: :down:
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seemeyer wrote:The Imperialist/Colonialists wantedto replace the Islamic alphabet with their own. Destroying the Arabic alphabet is part of a larger conspiracy to destroy all Islamic traditions, beliefs and they were succesful in that.Having an Arabic alphabet would have,idealy,given us a different world view,becuase of the acces to Islamic litrature
Arabic script does not mean necessary you automatically learn to understand Arabic laguage, again religion of Islam and Arabic script it self is two different thinks, the first think is ARABIC script was there before Islam come on this world, and millions of Christian Arabs use as their own language, therefore you do not need to use Arabic script in order to prove that you Muslim.

and so called caliphate was a inheritance goverment system dictatorial from the beginning when father(khaliif) dies hes fat son will in inherite the goverment and we have today those regimes like NORTH KOREA,( khaliif kim il jung when hes dies hes son khaliiif kim bin jumg will become new president(khaliif of north korea) like SAUDI ARABIA and mny other places,those caliphate regimes was corrupt regimes and slavery was legal people was bought and sold in the market like animals speccially black people. marka new born wahaabis exaggerate realty of caliphates systemwhich thanks to allah is not any more.
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Re: Somali Regimes mistake.

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Perfect_Order wrote:yalaxoow arabic also has long vowels that isn't inherient in the latin script :lol: :down:
no arabic like somali does not have long vocals, tusaaale kalmada carabiga ee ah ( ANNA)=ANIGA)
arabic( alif iyo nuun iyo alif) ana waxaa ugu dhawaaqi kartaa ANAA haddii aad doontid laakiin somali erayga( ANIGA)( ARABI hadii aad u qortid(alif+nuun+gaaf+alif) marka sidee u akhrineysaa, waa inaad shaqal isticmaashaa, thats very confusing, waxaad isticmaaleysaa SHAQAL ¨¨'_-; tiro baddan waa very very diffecult, laakiin latin uma baahnid shaqalo inaad isticmaalo ( aniga) A+NI+GA sidaa darteed latin wax uga fiican ma jirto af soomaaliga dhismihiisa
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It's true the scrypt is not the languade but when same alphabet is prevalent in all Islamic lands and all historic, cultural, thoughtful, legal, economic, social, literary, and artistic works are written and kept in this alphabet.It makes it easier for us to learn the language and also we would e sharing a MILLAT(common world view)
Which would be antagonistic to the western world view which is prevelant in the world today
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Re: Somali Regimes mistake.

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subxanallha yalaxoow

You have to understand that the script most preliterate countries use is the one that which they see most value in. And this leads to a leaning in which one you want to model your own society off of. So yes, this has had a certain impact on the Somali nation but it is understandable from the view point that the best schools were in europe, and the most to gain was from them.etc.

We should look to the model of the Ottomans, who were the top muslims in their day and rulers of the muslim world, they chose arabic as their script despite the fact they ruled the arabs, what humbling nation of people no wonder they went so far.

The day the ottoman caliphate day was the day the muslim nations were carved up and torn apart and now look at how they are.

Do you know that after the caliphate was destroyed the muslims held a conference in Mecca, to chose a caliph, but they couldn't come to any agreement. Ayman al Zawahiri's maternal Grandfather who was in that conference seeing the state the muslims were in, said that they should just end the conference and pray salata janaza on the muslim ummah. Subxanallah.
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