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Land grabbing in Africa by developing nations

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:05 pm
by Coeus
Has anyone noticed that there is landgrabbing going on in Africa? Im not talking about mugabe and his Zanu PF followers who kill and chase off whites. Im talking about countries like China, Egypt,Brazil, Saudi Arabia and many more that are buying up big chunks of farmland in Africa. Sudan just sold these past years more then a million hectar of its land to Iran, Egypt and china. Ethiopia gave a big chunk of land that Oromos live in to Sudan, India and Saudi Arabia (Even the president of djibouti and his wife). Uganda, kenya and Tanzania are also selling/leasing big chunk of their lands.

The foreign companies buy up the land and grow food on it, witch they later export back to their homeland. They use locals as labour and pay the off with less then two dollars as salaries. Ethiopian woman in Oromo lands are working for Indian companies witch pay them off 2 dollars as salaries to work in the farm all day. This is apparently a good deal for African goverments. Whats so good about it?

The world will face food shortages in certain areas of the world in the near future. Places like India and China have destroyed their farms because of their polution. They have a population over a billion, they are looking to Africa so the continent can feed them. Of course while the locals are suffering hunger, because hunger is still the deadliest killer in Africa.

Recently Madagaskar told south korean and chinese foreign goveremnt that their land is NOT for sale and that the farm is used for feeding the people. Why arent other countries doing this also?

I recently read a chinese articel form a chinese newspaper that suggested that Somalia and China used to have good ties and that according to some Somali politician in the past ( i forgot their name) they would lease of Somali farms to chinese companies in the future and that Somalia and china would have "great" "ties". I cant seem to find this article to provide it. But i still want to discuss this.

What is your opinion of the matter?

Re: Land grabbing in Africa by developing nations

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:35 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
I've always had a suspicion at the back of my mind something like that would happen, now it has. The world is modernising fast and soon sustainable arable land will be scarce, even in large countries like india, china and russia (Saudi arabia has always had this problem, due to it being largely a desert). The brain dead africans are slow to react to everything and so I see a future of neo-colonialism in africa, whereby emerging nations will see and exploit the abundance of farmable land in sub-saharan africa at the expense of the local populations.

Re: Land grabbing in Africa by developing nations

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:23 pm
by Coeus
Yes, i fear that china might take actions if some african countries try to break their contracts and whatnot.

Re: Land grabbing in Africa by developing nations

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:40 pm
by Oxidant
Wallahi, sometimes I really think Africans are genetically dumber than the rest.

1, Africans have abundant fertile land yet millions go hungry while barren land of Arabia and overpopulated Asia can feed its people
2, Even in Australia, a country that has a food oversupply, the government is bringing in legislation to ban foreign companies and people buying fertile land, and Australia is a food exporter

African governments are extremely short sighted and will sell anything for a short financial gain in the expense of the people long term benefit.

These Asian,Arabs and Indians are securing their people long term food needs, while Africans remain hungry and have a underdeveloped agriculture industry.

Anyways, selling large amount of land to foreign people will have a devastating effect in the long run both socially and politically,

:lol: :lol: @ Oromia being sold, it's pathetic

Re: Land grabbing in Africa by developing nations

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:21 am
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Oxidant wrote:Wallahi, sometimes I really think Africans are genetically dumber than the rest.

1, Africans have abundant fertile land yet millions go hungry while barren land of Arabia and overpopulated Asia can feed its people
2, Even in Australia, a country that has a food oversupply, the government is bringing in legislation to ban foreign companies and people buying fertile land, and Australia is a food exporter

African governments are extremely short sighted and will sell anything for a short financial gain in the expense of the people long term benefit.

These Asian,Arabs and Indians are securing their people long term food needs, while Africans remain hungry and have a underdeveloped agriculture industry.

Anyways, selling large amount of land to foreign people will have a devastating effect in the long run both socially and politically,

:lol: :lol: @ Oromia being sold, it's pathetic
It's not that africans are dumber than everyone else (though that compounds the problems), it's that african leaders lack the integrity and leadership skills of other nations. If a korean or chinese, or greek or arab etc ever becomes leader, they may or may not be corrupt but they will atleast see to it that their people aren't starving. If an african becomes leader of his country, he will sell all the oil and mineral wealth of the country to western companies for a few million. He will buy jetplanes made of gold, armani suits and rolls royces, while his people are uneducated, starving and jobless. :down:

Re: Land grabbing in Africa by developing nations

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:50 am
by union
Better they toil for another man for pennies than starve and embarrass Africans everywhere when "feed the children" broadcasts their pot bellied asses to all the world.

The intelligent thing would have been to develop the farms and export the foods to China/India independently, but as usual Africans select instant gratification rather than long term benefit.