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Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia

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Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia
Saw this release on Wikileaks.

It's a short one paragraph article. So it makes an easy and quick read.

This is a memo written from an official with the UN Mission in Ethiopia and Eritrea in 2006 detailing a meeting with Jenday Frazer, the Bush Administration's Assistant Secretary of State for African affairs. It is interesting in that it undercuts Bush administration officials' later assertions that they did not encourage Ethiopia to invade Somalia in 2006...
and from the world fact book:

I think that this may be related, though I am uncertain considering the difference in years....above it states 2006. This quote here states 2007.
IDK...maybe it isn't. I just thought that I'd post it here to let you know that a war did occur in Somalia and Ethiopia in the mid to late 2000's.

Ethiopian forces invaded southern Somalia and routed Islamist Courts from Mogadishu in January 2007
.....

LInk is here:

Anyways....so does the US have an interest in Africa??
For sure it does.
I believe even that was discussed earlier. I just don't know which News Thread it was again.

Anyways.....The US keeps a nice garrison and army base on the Horn of Africa...a.k.a AFRICOM there for a reason.
And it's not there necessarily to help the poor and sick.
And it's not there necessarily to have military relations with more than African nations. Well, it is, but I believe that it may be there for far deeper reasons than that.
That's my opinion.

Look at the map of the scope of operations. And look carefully.

LInk is here:

United States Africa Command - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Now this:

The U.S. Department of State stated of AFRICOM that:

"The U.S. military’s new command center for Africa, Africa Command (AFRICOM), will play a supportive role as Africans continue to build democratic institutions and establish good governance across the continent. AFRICOM’S foremost mission is to help Africans achieve their own security, and to support African leadership efforts.


United States Africa Command - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ya. Right.

To help establish good governance, my a$$

You don't need a military to help do that. To do something like that takes people without guns.
To use guns as a measure of security assurance and military aid isn't the right way to do it for one thing, IMHO.

The US army is there for far deeper reasons, I believe.

Most especially when the scope of operations is that large.
And that's taken into consideration what the Project for a New American Century would like to see and the fact of a very large military that has world wide influence and want's to keep it's military empire nice 'n big.

Here's the link for the Wikileaks article:


http://www.sb-innovation.de/f50/wikilea ... lia-17060/
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Re: Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia

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Before Wikileaks released the classified information, the Eritrean Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Osman Mohammed Saleh, during his speech at the UN General Assembly made the following statement about the AFRICOM, and what he had called "management by crisis" caught my attention.
Noting that there were multiple causes for those ills, he said: “At the same time, it cannot be denied that many of them have been exacerbated, if not instigated, by the misguided and domineering policies of the US Government.” “Management by crisis” had emerged as a new tool of policy promotion, whereby no real efforts were made to prevent and manage conflicts. The United States deliberately spawned crises and allowed them to fester, so it could maintain control in situations of permanent instability. There was an absence of countervailing forces, and the United Nations was weak for failing to pursue an independent line and act as a bulwark of multilateralism.
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Re: Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia

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It's Jendayi Frazer

Her testimony about the invasion is here:


She dances around the issues, but the US had their fingerprints ALL OVER the whole thing. The US orchestrated the whole thing and continues to do so, special forces are crawling all over the place and they have surveillance and aircraft and missiles and all kinds of crap. The US has been deeply involved since 2001. Somalia was one of the places on George W Bush's "bad list".

The US had a role in torpedoing the TNG, since they thought they were too close to "islamists". They bankrolled the ARPCT and orchestrated the election of Abdullahi Yusuf, inviting only their minions to the peace conference in Nairobi that would pick the new government, and arranged for their takeover of Baidoa.

It's funny when she de-facto recognizes Somaliland in her testimony.
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Re: Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia

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This was when Bush had controll, enough said :down:
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Re: Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia

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I'm curious about what the leaks will reveal about Somalia's former dictator.
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Re: Wikileaks: US encouraged Ethiopian invasion of Somalia

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"Management by Crisis" is the bread & butter of groups like ICG. The lords of poverty have to find the means to sustain themselves while serving the interests of the US. A win win strategy!
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