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Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:08 am
by RuralMan08
We need to introduce this system to Somalia/Somaliland/Djibouti/Kilinka Shanaad.
God willing I pray for the day to come where every Somali should be required by Law to carry an identity clan card that states his/her clan, lineage and land of origin. This way the Somalis cannot be filtered by unknown peoples. This system will challenge and defeat corruption and mismanagement of the qabiil system. For example, if somebody's identity card mentions that he was born in a certain land that is pre-dominated by his clan then Somalis can collectively root out the injustice made by other clan's territorial ambitions and be required to withdraw claims to that land.
This system will make it easier to identify someone's clan without having to ask them the question which would otherwise lead to an awkward situation. The I.D card must mention the individuals birth name, sex, date of birth and the names of 2 witnesses that can verify the person's claim to this identity. The photo must be at least 2 years old to minimise the risk of fraud that is common to us Somali people. Somali qabiil identity cards will dramatically reduce qabiil related violence, it will help marriage issues, create alliances, partnerships and many more positive outcomes.
God Willing this will solve the qabiil problem once and for all inshallah.
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:16 am
by rosyspecs
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:17 am
by RuralMan08
Whatever you say Walaashiis
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:21 am
by rosyspecs
RuralMan08 wrote:
Whatever you say Walaashiis
Trust me I'm not Walaashis!
Btw a welcome would be nice, where's the somali hospitality?
Nice to see fellow somalis in the cyber world
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:23 am
by Walaashiis
I am not anybody else. I am walaashiis. Believe me.
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:27 am
by RuralMan08
rosyspecs wrote:
Btw a welcome would be nice, where's the somali hospitality?
Nice to see fellow somalis in the cyber world
Welcome, MAr7aban li ukhtinaal carabiyaa Walaashiis
This is why we need identity cards. To reomove and expel the foreign elements within our midsts.
Walaahiis No.2, how are you?
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:34 am
by rosyspecs
Walaashiis wrote:I am not anybody else. I am walaashiis. Believe me.
RuralMan08 wrote:rosyspecs wrote:
Btw a welcome would be nice, where's the somali hospitality?
Nice to see fellow somalis in the cyber world
Welcome, MAr7aban li ukhtinaal carabiyaa Walaashiis
This is why we need identity cards. To reomove and expel the
foreign elements within our midsts.
Walaahiis No.2, how are you?
Thanks for the welcome
Please elaborate on what you mean by foreign elements
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:37 am
by RuralMan08
rosyspecs wrote:
Thanks for the welcome
Please elaborate on what you mean by foreign elements
Anyone who doesn't or cannot prove without duress their lineage to a known Somali clan paternally. No ratios, no percentages.
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 am
by rosyspecs
RuralMan08 wrote:rosyspecs wrote:
Thanks for the welcome
Please elaborate on what you mean by foreign elements
Anyone who doesn't or cannot prove without duress their lineage to a known Somali clan paternally. No ratios, no percentages.
Well I can prove with true conviction I'm affiliated with a somali clan 100%
So...
I'm a bona fide somali
you lose
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:47 am
by RuralMan08
rosyspecs wrote:
Well I can prove with true conviction I'm affiliated with a somali clan 100%
So...
I'm a bona fide somali
you lose
Prove yourself. I shall verify whether or not you are truthful or fraudulent:
1. What is your clan?
2. What is your land of origin?
3. What is your father's name?
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:50 am
by Walaashiis
Somalia is the land of immigrant and I am the product of those immigrant.
It sounds even I was already there when you were born.
Adiga iyo Grandpakhalif should attend my madrassa I will teach Somali language iyo gabayo.
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:57 am
by RuralMan08
Walaashiis wrote:Somalia is the land of immigrant and I am the product of those immigrant.
It sounds even I was already there when you were born.
Adiga iyo Grandpakhalif should attend my madrassa I will teach Somali language iyo gabayo.
I am also an English teacher but I am not an Englishman, my English poetry is flawless, I speak romantically and more proficient than Shakespeare but I am no Englishman.
P.S Somalia is not a land of immigrants, its a land of natives. Immigrants are not welcome
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:57 am
by rosyspecs
RuralMan08 wrote:rosyspecs wrote:
Well I can prove with true conviction I'm affiliated with a somali clan 100%
So...
I'm a bona fide somali
you lose
Prove yourself. I shall verify whether or not you are truthful or fraudulent:
1. What is your clan? Isaaq
2. What is your land of origin? ( don't need to really answer this)
3. What is your father's name? too personal sorry
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:01 am
by RuralMan08
rosyspecs wrote:
Prove yourself. I shall verify whether or not you are truthful or fraudulent:
1. What is your clan? Isaaq
2. What is your land of origin? ( don't need to really answer this)
3. What is your father's name? (see 1)
Isaaq is very general! Be more specific, I want a subclan and a land of origin.
Re: Somali identity cards
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:03 am
by rosyspecs
RuralMan08 wrote:Walaashiis wrote:Somalia is the land of immigrant and I am the product of those immigrant.
It sounds even I was already there when you were born.
Adiga iyo Grandpakhalif should attend my madrassa I will teach Somali language iyo gabayo.
I am also an English teacher but I am not an Englishman, my English poetry is flawless, I speak romantically and more proficient than Shakespeare but I am no Englishman.
P.S Somalia is not a land of immigrants, its a land of natives. Immigrants are not welcome
Surely Somalis emigrated there themselves too, your logic is flawed.
Walaashis you're more than welcome
