Why is Alshabab so ineffective against AMISOM?

[gurey25]

Why is alshabab so ineffective against AMISOM,

You have 8000+ soldiers yes but contrary to what we expected they have a sever shortage of armour and artillery.

I was surprised to find out that Uganda has only about 30 T-55 tanks in its inventory total, and only 4 tanks are in moqadisho right now.
The rest of the Armour of AMISOM are BTR-40 and BTR-60 APCS and they are about a dozen..
What you see most of the time on tv are Buffel/Casspir south african APCS and there are only 8.



If eritrea was behind alshabaab couldnt they provide some artillery like 122 mm howitzer 2A18 , they have hundreds and these ones are currently bieng replaced as they are too old.
They are easy to use, new conscripts are trained to use them in less than 2 months.

Even with this small range they can shell the Ugandans at will from the suburbs of moqdishu well within the range of the gun,
and counter battery will kill many civilians but will not be very effective in an urban area.
We all know alshabaab doesnt give a shit about civilian casualties, so why are they not doing this?

If they shell the Africans, they will have to attack into the heavily defended urban areas, and they will get fucked big time..

My guess is that all this talk about foriegn jihadis in charge of al shabaab and massive eritrean involvment and training is all bullshit.
Even with minimal eritrean involvement or large numbers of Afghan war veterns the results will show very quickly...

We are not seeing any changes to tactics, just mortars, hit and run attacks and useless suicide bombings...

Guys this is a homegrown outfit...
completly somali.

[Kanada]

You are definitely wrong about the tank and apc numbers. All around ignorant post.

[Cirwaaq]

Dude as soon as Shabab advance the procedure is shell the civilians mercilessly till shabab retreat!!!

What is the point of a victory when the population is all dead?

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Hopefuly you understand now why i laugh everytime shabab claims to have defeated ethiopia

[Garuun]

Gurey

The socalled Amisom have much more firepower, their are mostly in fortified bases, they hardly come out to battle shabaab..they want into stay Mogadishu as long as possible with minimal casualty, because they are getting paid well for that, from the mercenery with the helmet on the ground to the top level like filthy dictator Musaveni etc ,everrybody is eating .

[FAH1223]

Just look at al shabab fighters, they are 10 years old

[Garuun]

10 year old cant even carry an AK47

[LobsterUnit]

this aint a playstation game, negroe.

[udun]

AMISOM is well-armed and well equiped. They have fortified their bases and the higher casualties that they are suffering is not counted, so it does not matter if they lost 1000s of soldiers, they are just statistics, the higher unemployment in Uganda and Burundi will forbid them from questioning them from the toll that they are suffering. Recenty, the Chief of Ugandan Armed Forces promised to completely destroy the Bakara market after he saw the higher number of body caskets that were returning from Somalia. It seems Al-Shabaab's strategy is to gradually inflict heavy losses on AMISOM while they are minimizing their own casualties. It looks like they are aiming for a long term plan than a short term victories.

[garoweboy]

There fighters are mostly between the age of 12 and up mostly teenagers are in the front line. they can defeat old somali head but they can't beat fufu that eat ugali and spinach 24/7.

[ArcadeFire]

AMISOM is well-armed and well equiped. They have fortified their bases and the higher casualties that they are suffering is not counted, so it does not matter if they lost 1000s of soldiers, they are just statistics, the higher unemployment in Uganda and Burundi will forbid them from questioning them from the toll that they are suffering. Recenty, the Chief of Ugandan Armed Forces promised to completely destroy the Bakara market after he saw the higher number of body caskets that were returning from Somalia. It seems Al-Shabaab's strategy is to gradually inflict heavy losses on AMISOM while they are minimizing their own casualties. It looks like they are aiming for a long term plan than a short term victories.

The AU are also playing the long game, their slowly encroaching upon Shabaab territory without the fanfare of big battles...

[FAH1223]

10 year old cant even carry an AK47

[Kanada]

10 year old cant even carry an AK47

the first kid is probably 15+

second kids arent fighters is that guy cali dhere in his younger days or something?

[AbdiWahab252]

Gurey,

This is a foreign run organization. The only true SOmali run Islamist groups were Xisbul Islam and ASWJ. XI fractured and were swallowed by Al Shabab.

Any SOmali run organization fractures and can not maintain its unity for the long stretch due to the break down in discipline and commitment to the bigger picture. A foreign run one doesn't care if your abti is being held hostage by Al Shabab and won't allow you to figure a way of getting him out even if you are a senior leader.

Real talk: AMISOM focks up Al Shabab in the vast majority of confrontations. The only things AMISOM lacks are: strong, disciplined Somali allies, airpower and commitment from the US Navy to blockade Kismayo and support from the US airforce to whack Al Shabab installations be it in Burco or Ras Kiamboni.

[FAH1223]

Gurey,

This is a foreign run organization. The only true SOmali run Islamist groups were Xisbul Islam and ASWJ. XI fractured and were swallowed by Al Shabab.

Any SOmali run organization fractures and can not maintain its unity for the long stretch due to the break down in discipline and commitment to the bigger picture. A foreign run one doesn't care if your abti is being held hostage by Al Shabab and won't allow you to figure a way of getting him out even if you are a senior leader.

Real talk: AMISOM focks up Al Shabab in the vast majority of confrontations. The only things AMISOM lacks are: strong, disciplined Somali allies, airpower and commitment from the US Navy to blockade Kismayo and support from the US airforce to whack Al Shabab installations be it in Burco or Ras Kiamboni.

Yeah, its been that way since the start of the civil war. Every group has the same characteristics