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Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:40 am
by RuralMan08
Then Hirabu, the chieftain of the Somali tribe of Marraihan, killed one of the eqquerries of the sultan 'Umar Din when he was in Nagab. The Imam (Ahmed ibn Ibrahim) heard about what Hirabu had done, and he said to the Sultan 'Umar Din, "This Somali has acted treacherously towards you and killed you equerry." So the Imam (Ahmed ibn Ibrahim), and the sultan with him prepared himself for an expedition and set out and arrived at the country of the Somalis, as far as Kidad. Hirabu, meantime had fled out and was hiding in his country.
Futuh al Habasha, Shihab ad Din Ahmad ibn Abdel Qadir, (16th century) page 105.
Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrahim was disgusted with the Marehan for their treachery and called them; "This Somali" with utter disdain and contempt, their indecent behaviour was unnaceptable and he chased their leader back to Gedo.
Imam Samaroon waging wars BEFORE Imam Ahmed Gragn
This means that the Gadabursi political stance changed years later and they became an enemy of the leader:
Among the Somali tribes there was another called Habr Makador, from which the Imam had demanded the alms tax. They refused to pay it, escorting to banditry on the roads and actomg evilly towards his country.
Futuh al Habasha, Shihab ad Din Ahmad ibn Abdel Qadir, (16th century) page 27
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:43 am
by The_Emperior5
Where does it say Imam Axmed ibrahim al ghazi hated the Somalis. Why would The Imam hate the Somalis , Somalis were 80% of his army
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:46 am
by RuralMan08
The_Emperior5 wrote:Where does it say Imam Axmed ibrahim al ghazi hated the Somalis. Why would The Imam hate the Somalis , Somalis were 80% of his army
My mistake, he hated the Marehan
Then Hirabu, the chieftain of the Somali tribe of Marraihan, killed one of the eqquerries of the sultan 'Umar Din when he was in Nagab. The Imam (Ahmed ibn Ibrahim) heard about what Hirabu had done, and he said to the Sultan 'Umar Din, "This Somali has acted treacherously towards you and killed you equerry." So the Imam (Ahmed ibn Ibrahim), and the sultan with him prepared himself for an expedition and set out and arrived at the country of the Somalis, as far as Kidad. Hirabu, meantime had fled out and was hiding in his country.
Futuh al Habasha, Shihab ad Din Ahmad ibn Abdel Qadir, (16th century) page 105.
And he hated the Makadoor tribes of Gadabursi because they refused to pay tax:
Among the Somali tribes there was another called Habr Makador, from which the Imam had demanded the alms tax. They refused to pay it, escorting to banditry on the roads and actomg evilly towards his country.
Futuh al Habasha, Shihab ad Din Ahmad ibn Abdel Qadir, (16th century) page 27
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:49 am
by grandpakhalif
This trick is getting lame.
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:50 am
by RuralMan08
grandpakhalif wrote: This trick is getting lame.
It's not a trick, this is from Siad Barre's edited version of Futuh al Habasha
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:51 am
by LobsterUnit
Refusing to pay zakat is a no-no in any Islamic state. It doesn't matter if the refusal comes from an invidual,family or tribe. I am sure there are warriors from those tribes who helped the Imam collect the taxes from their own tribes. The issue is not about hate, mate, go figure.
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:52 am
by The_Emperior5
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:53 am
by grandpakhalif
RuralMan08 wrote:grandpakhalif wrote: This trick is getting lame.
It's not a trick, this is from Siad Barre's edited version of Futuh al Habasha
And do you think I care about this. So I heard you were xabashi
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:00 pm
by RuralMan08
GaajoUnit wrote:Refusing to pay zakat is a no-no in any Islamic state. It doesn't matter if the refusal comes from an invidual,family or tribe. I am sure there are warriors from those tribes who helped the Imam collect the taxes from their own tribes. The issue is not about hate, mate, go figure.
The Somalis hated to go forth and fight for Allah because they were full of greed, they only cared about booty and money, only a minority fought for the sake of Allah.
Grandpakhalif
I have the book with me, I shall further quote more horrendous practices by the Somali tribesmen
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:02 pm
by grandpakhalif
Xabashi boy, i think Advo wu ka xanaajiye so hada Sade Darood baad uu wareegtay
no that we with the help of other great somalis like bah geri caused your ancestors to eat raw meat and live in the dark.
Re: Imam Ahmed Gragn (Gurey) hated the Somalis
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:05 pm
by RuralMan08
grandpakhalif wrote:Xabashi boy, i think Advo wu ka xanaajiye so hada Sade Darood baad uu wareegtay
no that we with the help of other great somalis like bah geri caused your ancestors to eat raw meat and live in the dark.
Forget the habeshas, even Imam Ahmad couldn't stand the Marehan, he made their whole leader run away to Cabudwaaq. Bah Geri were always the most noble Darod.
P.S I shall depart, Ill come back later with more shocking revelations of how the Somalis were full of greed and jealousy