Intellectual dishonesty of the Somali Prime Minister Farmajo

[Somalian_Boqor]

Somalia: Intellectual dishonesty of the Somali prime minister
23 Jan 23, 2011 - 4:02:55 AM

By: Liban Ahmad

The BBC Somali Service interview with the Somali Prime Minister, Mohamed Abdi Mohamed (Raiisul Wasaaraha oo ka hadlay go'aankii Puntland) was a poor prime ministerial response to Puntland’s decision to stop working in partnership with the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia although the BBC let him off the hook by not asking his reaction to Puntland’s stance against renewing the TFG mandate beyond August 2011.

The prime minister cited the reconciliation efforts that members of his cabinet undertook in Mudug region last year where members of two neighboring sub-clans clashed. “No one has ever conducted such reconciliation before”, he told the BBC Somali Service. In 1993 former TFG president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed (then head of emergencies in Mudug and Nugaal and Bari regions) and the late warlord General Mohamed Farah Aideed signed an agreement to which Puntland and Galmudug administrations are still committed.

Mr Mohamed said he had not listened to the news about Puntland communiqué against extending the TFG mandate “but if it is true , it is unfortunate. It empowers Ahmed Godane [ Emir of Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen] and foreign jihadists.” Mr Mohamed likened Puntland to Al Shabaab supporters but this is hardly surprising. “ Puntland people are patriots who had a role in the Somali Youth League, ( the independence movement) and made their land peaceful” he said but in his U.S. Strategic Interest in Somalia: From Cold War Era to War on Terror, (2009) “ a thesis submitted to the Faculty of the Graduate School of the State University at Buffalo in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree Master of Arts Department of American Studies”, he put forward the following baseless argument:

“In the South, the Italian colony found similar willingness in two loyal tribes: the Majeerteen of the Darood clan and the Mudulod, sub-clan of the Hawiye. These two southern tribes helped the Italians without reservation. In return, Italian and British colonies enabled these clans to claim some superiority over the other clans in terms of wealth, scholarship for their children in London and Rome, and future government influence in the (sic) post-colonial era.”

Asked abut Somaliland’s search for secession, he said it was not appropriate to refer to “past colonial hegemony” to justify secession. Mr Mohamed has praised ‘Somaliland’ people for their achievements. However, his portrayal of one of the Somali clans in ex-British Somaliland in his thesis makes him the wrong person to preach Somalis against secession. Another quote from the prime minister’s 2009 thesis with relevance to ‘Somaliland’ is this:

“Most importantly, when European imperialist decided to give up their colonies in Somalia, they rewarded top leadership positions to the tribes and individuals closest to them. For instance, in the Northern colony of British Somaliland, the Isaaq tribe was awarded virtually all of the best jobs for its collaboration with the imperialists.”

It is not only Somali warlords who divide Somali clans ; many Somali ‘intellectuals’ like prime minister Mohamed, have written either lies about Somalia or justified victimising Somali clans. The Holy Koran1 cautions the learned against intellectual dishonesty: “ Do you enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet you study the Scripture? Will you not understand? 02:44 (Surat al Baqarah; verse 44).

Somalia’s Prime Minister, Mohamed A. Mohamed, had better pluck the courage to address his inconsistencies and intellectual dishonesty before discussing the merits of unity and governance for divided Somalis.

By: Liban Ahmad
Libahm@gmail.com
Liban Ahmad is the editor of Somalia Research Report

[Somalian_Boqor]

Good read, Farmaajo's attempts to be the Obama of Somalia is being put in check. Intellectual dishonesty is a serious offense in Islam.

The Holy Koran1 cautions the learned against intellectual dishonesty: “ Do you enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet you study the Scripture? Will you not understand? 02:44 (Surat al Baqarah; verse 44).
Somalia’s Prime Minister, Mohamed A. Mohamed, had better pluck the courage to address his inconsistencies and intellectual dishonesty before discussing the merits of unity and governance for divided Somalis.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Somalia: Intellectual dishonesty of the Somali prime minister
23 Jan 23, 2011 - 4:02:55 AM

By: Liban Ahmad

The BBC Somali Service interview with the Somali Prime Minister, Mohamed Abdi Mohamed (Raiisul Wasaaraha oo ka hadlay go'aankii Puntland) was a poor prime ministerial response to Puntland’s decision to stop working in partnership with the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia although the BBC let him off the hook by not asking his reaction to Puntland’s stance against renewing the TFG mandate beyond August 2011.

The prime minister cited the reconciliation efforts that members of his cabinet undertook in Mudug region last year where members of two neighboring sub-clans clashed. “No one has ever conducted such reconciliation before”, he told the BBC Somali Service. In 1993 former TFG president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed (then head of emergencies in Mudug and Nugaal and Bari regions) and the late warlord General Mohamed Farah Aideed signed an agreement to which Puntland and Galmudug administrations are still committed.

Mr Mohamed said he had not listened to the news about Puntland communiqué against extending the TFG mandate “but if it is true , it is unfortunate. It empowers Ahmed Godane [ Emir of Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen] and foreign jihadists.” Mr Mohamed likened Puntland to Al Shabaab supporters but this is hardly surprising. “ Puntland people are patriots who had a role in the Somali Youth League, ( the independence movement) and made their land peaceful” he said but in his U.S. Strategic Interest in Somalia: From Cold War Era to War on Terror, (2009) “ a thesis submitted to the Faculty of the Graduate School of the State University at Buffalo in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree Master of Arts Department of American Studies”, he put forward the following baseless argument:

“In the South, the Italian colony found similar willingness in two loyal tribes: the Majeerteen of the Darood clan and the Mudulod, sub-clan of the Hawiye. These two southern tribes helped the Italians without reservation. In return, Italian and British colonies enabled these clans to claim some superiority over the other clans in terms of wealth, scholarship for their children in London and Rome, and future government influence in the (sic) post-colonial era.”

Asked abut Somaliland’s search for secession, he said it was not appropriate to refer to “past colonial hegemony” to justify secession. Mr Mohamed has praised ‘Somaliland’ people for their achievements. However, his portrayal of one of the Somali clans in ex-British Somaliland in his thesis makes him the wrong person to preach Somalis against secession. Another quote from the prime minister’s 2009 thesis with relevance to ‘Somaliland’ is this:

“Most importantly, when European imperialist decided to give up their colonies in Somalia, they rewarded top leadership positions to the tribes and individuals closest to them. For instance, in the Northern colony of British Somaliland, the Isaaq tribe was awarded virtually all of the best jobs for its collaboration with the imperialists.”

It is not only Somali warlords who divide Somali clans ; many Somali ‘intellectuals’ like prime minister Mohamed, have written either lies about Somalia or justified victimising Somali clans. The Holy Koran1 cautions the learned against intellectual dishonesty: “ Do you enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet you study the Scripture? Will you not understand? 02:44 (Surat al Baqarah; verse 44).

Somalia’s Prime Minister, Mohamed A. Mohamed, had better pluck the courage to address his inconsistencies and intellectual dishonesty before discussing the merits of unity and governance for divided Somalis.

By: Liban Ahmad
Libahm@gmail.com
Liban Ahmad is the editor of Somalia Research Report

If that's the case why is this moron running off to italy to beg his former colonial masters for aid and military assistance? Somaliland is none of his or any other zoomalian's concern.

[kambuli]

^^^ Dee hadduu ku cararay Talyaaniga, ma waan goostey oo Somali waan ka goostey buu yidhi? Xaggeed wax aan shaqo isku lahayn madaxa osugu gelineysaa

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

^^^ Dee hadduu ku cararay Talyaaniga, ma waan goostey oo Somali waan ka goostey buu yidhi? Xaggeed wax aan shaqo isku lahayn madaxa osugu gelineysaa

Haddan la goostey dhulkeyga, so what? Is the only basis of sharing a country somalinimo? If that's the case ask djibouti, Ogaden and Kenyan somalis whether they what to share a country with xamar? They will all laugh in your face.

[ina aadan]

Somali-baqara

Raisulwasaarahaga ka xishood niyow waad ku walatee.

[kambuli]

Abdi Ismail,

Waxba maad goosane, waad ku riyooneysaa inaad goosato Sow runtey maaha huuno?

Kor iyo hoosba waa laguugu sheegey, "Midnimada Somaaliyeed Waa Muqaddas"

[Coeus]

Somalia: Intellectual dishonesty of the Somali prime minister
23 Jan 23, 2011 - 4:02:55 AM

By: Liban Ahmad

The BBC Somali Service interview with the Somali Prime Minister, Mohamed Abdi Mohamed (Raiisul Wasaaraha oo ka hadlay go'aankii Puntland) was a poor prime ministerial response to Puntland’s decision to stop working in partnership with the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia although the BBC let him off the hook by not asking his reaction to Puntland’s stance against renewing the TFG mandate beyond August 2011.

The prime minister cited the reconciliation efforts that members of his cabinet undertook in Mudug region last year where members of two neighboring sub-clans clashed. “No one has ever conducted such reconciliation before”, he told the BBC Somali Service. In 1993 former TFG president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed (then head of emergencies in Mudug and Nugaal and Bari regions) and the late warlord General Mohamed Farah Aideed signed an agreement to which Puntland and Galmudug administrations are still committed.

Mr Mohamed said he had not listened to the news about Puntland communiqué against extending the TFG mandate “but if it is true , it is unfortunate. It empowers Ahmed Godane [ Emir of Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen] and foreign jihadists.” Mr Mohamed likened Puntland to Al Shabaab supporters but this is hardly surprising. “ Puntland people are patriots who had a role in the Somali Youth League, ( the independence movement) and made their land peaceful” he said but in his U.S. Strategic Interest in Somalia: From Cold War Era to War on Terror, (2009) “ a thesis submitted to the Faculty of the Graduate School of the State University at Buffalo in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree Master of Arts Department of American Studies”, he put forward the following baseless argument:

“In the South, the Italian colony found similar willingness in two loyal tribes: the Majeerteen of the Darood clan and the Mudulod, sub-clan of the Hawiye. These two southern tribes helped the Italians without reservation. In return, Italian and British colonies enabled these clans to claim some superiority over the other clans in terms of wealth, scholarship for their children in London and Rome, and future government influence in the (sic) post-colonial era.”

Asked abut Somaliland’s search for secession, he said it was not appropriate to refer to “past colonial hegemony” to justify secession. Mr Mohamed has praised ‘Somaliland’ people for their achievements. However, his portrayal of one of the Somali clans in ex-British Somaliland in his thesis makes him the wrong person to preach Somalis against secession. Another quote from the prime minister’s 2009 thesis with relevance to ‘Somaliland’ is this:

“Most importantly, when European imperialist decided to give up their colonies in Somalia, they rewarded top leadership positions to the tribes and individuals closest to them. For instance, in the Northern colony of British Somaliland, the Isaaq tribe was awarded virtually all of the best jobs for its collaboration with the imperialists.”

It is not only Somali warlords who divide Somali clans ; many Somali ‘intellectuals’ like prime minister Mohamed, have written either lies about Somalia or justified victimising Somali clans. The Holy Koran1 cautions the learned against intellectual dishonesty: “ Do you enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet you study the Scripture? Will you not understand? 02:44 (Surat al Baqarah; verse 44).

Somalia’s Prime Minister, Mohamed A. Mohamed, had better pluck the courage to address his inconsistencies and intellectual dishonesty before discussing the merits of unity and governance for divided Somalis.

By: Liban Ahmad
Libahm@gmail.com
Liban Ahmad is the editor of Somalia Research Report

If that's the case why is this moron running off to italy to beg his former colonial masters for aid and military assistance? Somaliland is none of his or any other zoomalian's concern.

And who begs and kisses the british ass all the time
Once again seccecionists fall out in IRONY

[Coeus]

Stufff and nonsense

And lol at "intellectual dishonesty"

What m,akes these puntlanders protect their corrupt taxi driver so much, walle whoever said futoole dont have any allies is wrong. He got alot of mini cab drivers on Snet trying to defame farmaajo

[King-of-Awdal]

Somalia: Intellectual dishonesty of the Somali prime minister
23 Jan 23, 2011 - 4:02:55 AM

By: Liban Ahmad

The BBC Somali Service interview with the Somali Prime Minister, Mohamed Abdi Mohamed (Raiisul Wasaaraha oo ka hadlay go'aankii Puntland) was a poor prime ministerial response to Puntland’s decision to stop working in partnership with the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia although the BBC let him off the hook by not asking his reaction to Puntland’s stance against renewing the TFG mandate beyond August 2011.

The prime minister cited the reconciliation efforts that members of his cabinet undertook in Mudug region last year where members of two neighboring sub-clans clashed. “No one has ever conducted such reconciliation before”, he told the BBC Somali Service. In 1993 former TFG president Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed (then head of emergencies in Mudug and Nugaal and Bari regions) and the late warlord General Mohamed Farah Aideed signed an agreement to which Puntland and Galmudug administrations are still committed.

Mr Mohamed said he had not listened to the news about Puntland communiqué against extending the TFG mandate “but if it is true , it is unfortunate. It empowers Ahmed Godane [ Emir of Harakat al-Shabaab al-Mujahideen] and foreign jihadists.” Mr Mohamed likened Puntland to Al Shabaab supporters but this is hardly surprising. “ Puntland people are patriots who had a role in the Somali Youth League, ( the independence movement) and made their land peaceful” he said but in his U.S. Strategic Interest in Somalia: From Cold War Era to War on Terror, (2009) “ a thesis submitted to the Faculty of the Graduate School of the State University at Buffalo in partial fulfillment of the requirements for the degree Master of Arts Department of American Studies”, he put forward the following baseless argument:

“In the South, the Italian colony found similar willingness in two loyal tribes: the Majeerteen of the Darood clan and the Mudulod, sub-clan of the Hawiye. These two southern tribes helped the Italians without reservation. In return, Italian and British colonies enabled these clans to claim some superiority over the other clans in terms of wealth, scholarship for their children in London and Rome, and future government influence in the (sic) post-colonial era.”

Asked abut Somaliland’s search for secession, he said it was not appropriate to refer to “past colonial hegemony” to justify secession. Mr Mohamed has praised ‘Somaliland’ people for their achievements. However, his portrayal of one of the Somali clans in ex-British Somaliland in his thesis makes him the wrong person to preach Somalis against secession. Another quote from the prime minister’s 2009 thesis with relevance to ‘Somaliland’ is this:

“Most importantly, when European imperialist decided to give up their colonies in Somalia, they rewarded top leadership positions to the tribes and individuals closest to them. For instance, in the Northern colony of British Somaliland, the Isaaq tribe was awarded virtually all of the best jobs for its collaboration with the imperialists.”

It is not only Somali warlords who divide Somali clans ; many Somali ‘intellectuals’ like prime minister Mohamed, have written either lies about Somalia or justified victimising Somali clans. The Holy Koran1 cautions the learned against intellectual dishonesty: “ Do you enjoin right conduct on the people, and forget (to practice it) yourselves, and yet you study the Scripture? Will you not understand? 02:44 (Surat al Baqarah; verse 44).

Somalia’s Prime Minister, Mohamed A. Mohamed, had better pluck the courage to address his inconsistencies and intellectual dishonesty before discussing the merits of unity and governance for divided Somalis.

By: Liban Ahmad
Libahm@gmail.com
Liban Ahmad is the editor of Somalia Research Report

I want to see the original Thesis statement or article if he really did say that. That Alone will do some major damage to him. So far he has been good.

[Somalian_Boqor]

The damage has already been done.

[lali99]

Abdi Ismail,

Waxba maad goosane, waad ku riyooneysaa inaad goosato Sow runtey maaha huuno?

Kor iyo hoosba waa laguugu sheegey, "Midnimada Somaaliyeed Waa Muqaddas"

huuno kullaha ....abbayo macaan, never again that a government from the south could claim an inch of the waqooyi..so marka what muqaddis you're talking about?????? the fact remain forever, two SPERATE governmentswill rule on the "former" somalia with each their own military..marka unity crap has been flush a long time ago and face reality.... Sl declare independance and theres nothing that any other government can and will do..when push comes to shove, we retired an army from the south before and next time we will conquered and do more damage....reality and honesty fake nationalism wont get somalians nowhere

SL
OTHERS


unity ku riiyo oo sheeqo kaale ino keyn abaayo macaan

[Voltage]

I want to see the original Thesis statement or article if he really did say that. That Alone will do some major damage to him. So far he has been good.

It didn't do any damage. Some particular groups like Somalian_Boqor's tried to discredit him using this before he was given prime minister vote of confidence but it didn't go very far because Somalis know what he wrote is the complete truth. I myself have presented more than one colonial and immediate post-colonial literature that expressly agreed with what he said.

Do you know that MJ and Abgaal were the only nomadic Somalis to allow their children to go to missionary schools? We can't even talk about reer Hargeisa, because their children practically live there.

[The_Patriot]

I want to see the original Thesis statement or article if he really did say that. That Alone will do some major damage to him. So far he has been good.

It didn't do any damage. Some particular groups like Somalian_Boqor's tried to discredit him using this before he was given prime minister vote of confidence but it didn't go very far because Somalis know what he wrote is the complete truth. I myself have presented more than one colonial and immediate post-colonial literature that expressly agreed with what he said.

Do you know that MJ and Abgaal were the only nomadic Somalis to allow their children to go to missionary schools? We can't even talk about reer Hargeisa, because their children practically live there.

Ouch

[D-Runner]

Somalia: Intellectual dishonesty of the Somali prime minister

“In the South, the Italian colony found similar willingness in two loyal tribes: the Majeerteen of the Darood clan and the Mudulod, sub-clan of the Hawiye. These two southern tribes helped the Italians without reservation. In return, Italian and British colonies enabled these clans to claim some superiority over the other clans in terms of wealth, scholarship for their children in London and Rome, and future government influence in the (sic) post-colonial era.”

I want to see the original Thesis statement or article if he really did say that. That Alone will do some major damage to him. So far he has been good.

It didn't do any damage. Some particular groups like Somalian_Boqor's tried to discredit him using this before he was given prime minister vote of confidence but it didn't go very far because Somalis know what he wrote is the complete truth. I myself have presented more than one colonial and immediate post-colonial literature that expressly agreed with what he said.

Do you know that MJ and Abgaal were the only nomadic Somalis to allow their children to go to missionary schools? We can't even talk about reer Hargeisa, because their children practically live there.

Iga sug my response in the Puntland section kalabyahow