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SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:18 am
by Rooble90
We All know that there was an Insurgency that took place in Northwestern Somalia in The 1980's,
In which a "Jabhad" Known as The "SNM" where Fighting Against Goverent Forces At The time.
But Most of the People that Participated in That Insurgency Were From The Isaaq Clan.
However, Eventually The Insurgency Ended and a state called Somaliland was established.
....... Now, My Question to you is ,
Why Should The Gadabuursi and Harti Clans be apart of Somaliland, When they never took part of The "SNM Struggle" ?
And is the History of The SNM, a History of Somaliland or is it just a History of The Isaaq Clan?
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:53 am
by juzme123
Rooble90 wrote:Why Should The Gadabuursi and Harti Clans be apart of Somaliland
1) Genuine: Peace, stability, properity, democracy, inclusiveness, education, environment conductive to development.... because they have come together to achieve all those things and live in peac; not devided according to clan (as some people would like it to be).
Why you trying inad da isku dirtid and clan shit
Rooble90 wrote:And is the History of The SNM, a History of Somaliland or is it just a History of The Isaaq Clan?
Well those things are not mutually exclusive; it is probably part of all three and more of those; it is the history of Somalia, horn of africa... in addition to each of the three above
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:52 am
by Madelina
Rooble90 wrote:
And is the History of The SNM, a History of Somaliland or is it just a History of The Isaaq Clan?
It's the history of Somaliland, because anything that happens within the Somaliland borders automatically becomes the history of the country wether it's good, bad or it's detrimental to certain groups. Schools in Germany are still taught about Hitler and the rise of the nazi movement because that is part of their history ama ha jecladaan ama yanay jeclaan...same goes for Somaliland.
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:49 pm
by Ceelafweyn
However, Eventually The Insurgency Ended and a state called Somaliland was established.
May I remind the gentlman that Somaliland was not established in 1991, but existed prior the unification of the two states (Somalia and Somaliland).
In addition, the history of Siyaad Bare and the SNM struggle are equally important pieces of histry for all groups within Somaliland.
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:38 pm
by grandpakhalif
Madelina wrote:Rooble90 wrote:
And is the History of The SNM, a History of Somaliland or is it just a History of The Isaaq Clan?
It's the history of Somaliland, because anything that happens within the Somaliland borders automatically becomes the history of the country wether it's good, bad or it's detrimental to certain groups. Schools in Germany are still taught about Hitler and the rise of the nazi movement because that is part of their history ama ha jecladaan ama yanay jeclaan...same goes for Somaliland.
Now your comparing the holocaust to 1988
Wey duushey

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:48 pm
by The_Emperior5
SNM liberated the country and then handed the country over to it's people regardles of the clans who supported SNM or not ,SNM will always be in the history and the minds of the people of Somaliland the same way xisbullah SNL usp NUF Darawiish walashma dynasty is part of Somaliland history.
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:40 pm
by KyrieJama
Like I always say you can't ignore or hate on anothers tribes history and expect people to listen to yours. Issaq people go on and on about SNM they same why as we
dhulbahante talk endlessly about the darawish, they are two important movement which is in our history

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:44 pm
by XimanJaale
garad13 wrote:Like I always say you can't ignore or hate on anothers tribes history and expect people to listen to yours. Issaq people go on and on about SNM they same why as we
dhulbahante talk endlessly about the darawish, they are two important movement which is in our history

One movement was against amxaaro and gaalo whilst the other movement was a rebel that was supported by amxaaro and gaalo to fight against qaranka Somalia, please don't you dare bring Darawish and SNM thugs in the same level

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:52 pm
by The_Emperior5
garad13 wrote:Like I always say you can't ignore or hate on anothers tribes history and expect people to listen to yours. Issaq people go on and on about SNM they same why as we
dhulbahante talk endlessly about the darawish, they are two important movement which is in our history

exactly it's part of our history the same way Axmed guray history Darawiish , NUF SNL USP xisbullah. SNM is part of the history in the near future if another group stands up to liberate the hawd and reserve area from Ethiopia they will be part of the history two. reer laascanood will name their future airport after ismacil mire or cartan boss, and reer berbera will name their airport after Lixle. and reer gabiley named their university after suldaan tima cade what makes Somaliland unique is our Multi tribal society and history and we share the same tradition values which unites us.

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:55 pm
by KyrieJama
XimanJaale wrote:garad13 wrote:Like I always say you can't ignore or hate on anothers tribes history and expect people to listen to yours. Issaq people go on and on about SNM they same why as we
dhulbahante talk endlessly about the darawish, they are two important movement which is in our history

One movement was against amxaaro and gaalo whilst the other movement was a rebel that was supported by amxaaro and gaalo to fight against qaranka Somalia, please don't you dare bring Darawish and SNM thugs in the same level

I'm not comparing anything I just said they are movements in Somali history whether you hate or love a movement is besides the point history is history

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:57 pm
by KyrieJama
The_Emperior5 wrote:garad13 wrote:Like I always say you can't ignore or hate on anothers tribes history and expect people to listen to yours. Issaq people go on and on about SNM they same why as we
dhulbahante talk endlessly about the darawish, they are two important movement which is in our history

exactly it's part of our history the same way Axmed guray history Darawiish , NUF SNL USP xisbullah. SNM is part of the history in the near future if another group stands up to liberate the hawd and reserve area from Ethiopia they will be part of the history two. reer laascanood will name their future airport after ismacil mire or cartan boss, and reer berbera will name their airport after Lixle. and reer gabiley named their university after suldaan tima cade what makes Somaliland unique is our Multi tribal society and history which unites us.
Exactly everybody has their hero's and their shacab can honour them anyway they like

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:07 pm
by XimanJaale
garad13 wrote:XimanJaale wrote:garad13 wrote:Like I always say you can't ignore or hate on anothers tribes history and expect people to listen to yours. Issaq people go on and on about SNM they same why as we
dhulbahante talk endlessly about the darawish, they are two important movement which is in our history

One movement was against amxaaro and gaalo whilst the other movement was a rebel that was supported by amxaaro and gaalo to fight against qaranka Somalia, please don't you dare bring Darawish and SNM thugs in the same level

I'm not comparing anything I just said they are movements in Somali history whether you hate or love a movement is besides the point history is history

You said they were two important movements. Darawish was a empire not a faro ku tiris tribal rebel group (SNM). You shouldn't bring SNM and Darawish in the same sentence.
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:11 pm
by KyrieJama
^Listen the darawish movement is a dhulbahante movement you don't have to tell me about it's importance, just like I don't have to tell you anything about the kacaan.
Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:14 pm
by XimanJaale
garad13 wrote:^Listen the darawish movement is a dhulbahante movement you don't have to tell me about it's importance, just like I don't have to tell you anything about the kacaan.
and Warsangali! And all other Daroods. Btw Kacaan was a government not a movement, SNF was a movement

Re: SNM And other Somali Clans.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:45 pm
by Keyse_0208
Rooble90 wrote: Why Should The Gadabuursi and Harti Clans be apart of Somaliland, When they never took part of The "SNM Struggle" ?
The simple answer the they have no choice, meeshu waa the STRONGEST talk, and the weakest shut up and Listen, all children in somaliland schools from east to west have to learn the history, all the names of the mujaahids, waa iney xafidaan sida quraankoo kale
Miyaanad maqal the 3 L's
{Look}
{Learn}
{Listen}