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Some arabs believe Somalia is an arab nation!?

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I came across this article published today, regarding the Arab states today being weaker then ever.

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WE ARE witnessing the breakdown of the Arab state. The Arab political establishment has never looked weaker. It is either dying a protracted silent death, or collapsing in thunderous explosions.

Tunisia, which toppled its dictator two weeks ago, is by no means an exception. The symptoms are evident throughout the region, from the protests in Egypt, Algeria and Jordan, or the increasing polarisation of Lebanon's sectarian politics, to the near-collapse of the state in Yemen and Sudan, and its complete disintegration in Somalia.

The postcolonial Arab state has always carried deficiency as part of its genetic make-up. It emerged as a substitute for the complex network of local elites, tribal chieftains and religious groupings through which imperial authorities had maintained their grip; and its mission was the regulation of the population. This system of indirect control specifically required a ''state'' that was capable of keeping the population under check and maintaining ''stability'' at home, but too weak to disrupt foreign influence or disturb the regional balance of powers.
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The first generation of postcolonial Arab leaders were able to soften the repressive nature of the Arab state by virtue of their charisma, and promises of progress. With their exit, and the entry of a new class of colourless autocrats and crude generals, the Arab state lost any cover of legitimacy, and became synonymous with oppression.

The turmoil plaguing the region today is traceable to its diseased political order. Its degeneration has wrought havoc on the social sphere too. It has led to weaker national identities, and to individuals reverting to their sectarian affiliations, sparking conflicts between Sunnis and Shiites, Arabs and Kurds, Copts and Muslims.

Beyond the Arab state's aura of physical might lurks a moral vulnerability and a dearth of popular allegiance. This paradox has been laid bare by protesters in Tunisia and Egypt. Demonstrators are discovering the frailty of the instruments of repression that have long crushed and suffocated them.

These events are harbingers of a change long impeded. Were it not for the international will to maintain the status quo, what happened in eastern Europe and the USSR in the late 1980s could have occurred in the Arab region too. Arab rulers - aided by foreign allies - have been able to steal more than two decades of their societies' political life. Today they face the hour of truth: either radically transform the structure of authoritarian Arab rule, or depart for ever. The trouble is, an entity that has made coercion its raison d'etre and violence its sole means of survival has left itself no option but to sink deeper in the quagmire of tyranny. And for its sponsors, who have made its preservation the cornerstone of their ''stability'' strategy, they have no choice but to blindly stick with their ''friends'' to the last breath. That is why those demonstrating on Arab streets feel they are not only rebelling against corrupt local despots, but against their foreign backers too.
















If we lost our economy and our security to Al kelabs, it doesnt mean our history and culture is forgotten. The notion that Somalia is arab makes me very mad and is frankly an insult to Somalis and our ancestors :down:
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The word Arab sometimes means=Muslim countries... Remember it is a political word was used by a great leader salahudiin Raximahullah...
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afisoone wrote:The word Arab sometimes means=Muslim countries... Remember it is a political word was used by a great leader salahudiin Raximahullah...
Stop lying Salahudin never used the word Arab as a unifying slogan
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Arabs :up:
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afisoone wrote:The word Arab sometimes means=Muslim countries... Remember it is a political word was used by a great leader salahudiin Raximahullah...
Then important Muslim nation that face poverty and destruction from Africom would have been mentioned. Like Chad for example.

And for your information Sallahuddin was kurdish.
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Your talking about Somalia; I scratch my head when they refer to Sudanese Arabs v.s. Black Arabs on the news. How can blik people be Arab? and another group of blik people be African? :?
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khalid ali wrote:Arabs :up:
Yes that the livestock banning Saudi arabia did on Somaliland, was certainly a good gesture. :roll: :roll:

Or egypts denial of a independent state and its lobbying towards a unified Somalia together with Sudan, is also a god brotherly gesture :roll:
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it's not only some arabs, it's in our text books/official belief. we studied somali and djibouti are one of arab countries.

even in finals i had a question: which arab countries was colonized by italy, the correct answer was : Libya and somalia
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seemeyer wrote:
afisoone wrote:The word Arab sometimes means=Muslim countries... Remember it is a political word was used by a great leader salahudiin Raximahullah...
Stop lying Salahudin never used the word Arab as a unifying slogan
What you mean lying? You need to read when he was labelled as "egyptian" by some iraqis, he overcomes using the name of Arabs to get relate to them.. I do not lie the history of something man. I have read salahudiin many times.. I know this very smart easy going young "masaari" started his mission and captured the Arab region.

so just not assume what you do not know....
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hyperactive wrote:it's not only some arabs, it's in our text books/official belief. we studied somali and djibouti are one of arab countries.

even in finals i had a question: which arab countries was colonized by italy, the correct answer was : Libya and somalia
That's not suprising,considering both Djibouti and Somalia are in the Arab League
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hyperactive wrote:it's not only some arabs, it's in our text books/official belief. we studied somali and djibouti are one of arab countries.

even in finals i had a question: which arab countries was colonized by italy, the correct answer was : Libya and somalia
Correction, Somalia was never Arab. It is muslim and it is part of a Arab political union called the "arab league".

Chad has arabic as 1 language, yet it is not viwed as arab nation. Nor is it part of the arab league. These beduins most set their information right.
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seemeyer wrote:
hyperactive wrote:it's not only some arabs, it's in our text books/official belief. we studied somali and djibouti are one of arab countries.

even in finals i had a question: which arab countries was colonized by italy, the correct answer was : Libya and somalia
That's not suprising,considering both Djibouti and Somalia are in the Arab League
i will honest, i only heard here in somalinet being questioning if somalia is arab country!!

we studied that since kindergartner that somalia is arab nation. that what we officially thought.
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Coeus wrote:
khalid ali wrote:Arabs :up:
Yes that the livestock banning Saudi arabia did on Somaliland, was certainly a good gesture. :roll: :roll:

Or egypts denial of a independent state and its lobbying towards a unified Somalia together with Sudan, is also a god brotherly gesture :roll:
I have nothing against arabs man its all politics egypt wants a strong Somalia state against Ethiopia and thats it , its their interest , But Somalis are Arabs and have an arab culture. Kuwaiti royal family they have palaces in Somaliland , they donated over 10 Million dollars of funding for our airports , Arabs :up: There is no livestock ban now :up:
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Hello,

Please forgive the intrusion. I am Brazilian, live in my country, never met a person or isclâmico Arabic. Although a Christian, would love to know about the culture and experience of you. I have no prejudices, and believe in love.

But since childhood, I always learned in my school that Arab is not synonymous with Islam.

Arabs are those who possess the language and Arab culture, such as Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon or Sudan

Islamists are those who prophesy the Islamic faith. The religion of the prophet Muhammad. But these do not necessarily speak the Arabic language. (Somalia, Iran, Turkey and others)

I believe we can make a simple parallelism: All Arab countries are Islamic, but not all Muslims are Arabs. Is that it?

Excuse me my English, and a hug from a Brazilian who enjoys learning about other cultures.
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I have nothing against arabs man its all politics egypt wants a strong Somalia state against Ethiopia and thats it , its their interest , But Somalis are Arabs and have an arab culture. Kuwaiti royal family they have palaces in Somaliland , they donated over 10 Million dollars of funding for our airports , Arabs :up: There is no livestock ban now :up:
Man you dissapoint me wallahi. So because one royal dude form kuwait come to North Somalia and builds a palace among struggling Somalis. You completely turn yourself to Arab?

I dont give a fuck if the arab dude founds us 100 million dollars, its called business and its very kind of them. But money doesnt change who you are. SMH first you deny Somali midnimo and prompt for seccecion, now you completely identify yourself as arab? :? Im starting to see you for what you are.




And oh by the way, the livestock ban is back



Sacuudiga oo dib usoo celiyey Maraakiib Xoolo Ka Keenay Soomaaliya

Dawladda Sacuudiga ayaa dib usoo celisay labo markab oo waaweyn kuwaas oo xoolo ka qaaday dalka Soomaaliya isla markaana u waday Sacuudiga.

Maraakiibtaas ayaa waxaa ay u rarnaayeen ganacsato Soomaaliyeed,waxaana ay ka ambabaxeen dekadda magaalada Berbera ee maamulka Somaliland.

Ganacsadaha u rarnaa labada markab ayaa dib usoo celiyey,waxaana lagu micneeyey in xoolahaas ay ahaayeen kuwa aan caafimaad qabin isla markaana ay qabeen cuduro.

Mid kamid ah markabka ayaa xoolaha laga dejiyey iyadoo kan kale lagu wado saacadaha soo socda laga dejiyo,waxaana ganacsatadii Soomaalida iska lahayd xoolahaas ay aad ula yaabeen cudurada lagu sheegay xoolaha maadama la marsiiyey Maxjar ku yaalla Berbera oo uu iska leeyahay ganacsade kasoo jeeda Sacuudiga.

Sacuudiga waxaa uu kamid yahay waddamada loo iibgeeyo Xoolaha Soomaaliyeed.

http://horseedmedia.net/2011/01/25/sacu ... maaliya-2/


Good luck with your arab love. :up:
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