What the muslim world will realize
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What the muslim world will realize
Mark my words, this string of popular uprising is from the very essence of what the west propagates, the right to assembly, the right to choose their leaders, to peacefully demonstrate, and to voice their opinion... Democracy. With the middle east at about 60% of the population under the age of 24, they naively look to the west as their role models, and see them as naturally partners for their ideals. But mark my words the youth are going to learn a bitter lesson, and the first of these are going to be in Egypt, Tunisia, and other countries. They are going to learn that the west has no interest in their ideals, and does not see them as allies, but quite the opposite.... as a threat, as a vicious dog that needs to be kept in chains within a cage. Oh, the youth will see, and they will as how can this be, why are they supporting this, turning a blind eye. Dark times are ahead, and they will be disillusioned with the west, and their so called liberties and ideals. But this will not be the end to their fate, they will begin to look within themselves, they will look back at their roots, and though some will inevitably take violent and dangerous path, the very youths that are out in the streets today will be the leaders of tomorrow, looking to their past and not to the west for change. And they will begin to desire Islam, and they will seek to reform themselves, and this will pave the way for what has promised to come. This is the beginning of the end. May Allah have mercy for us.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
How melodramatic.
Well written though.
Well written though.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
the muslim world is demolized..... Demolization means teaching one generation to hate their leaders using these generation.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
Perfect_Order wrote:Mark my words, this string of popular uprising is from the very essence of what the west propagates, the right to assembly, the right to choose their leaders, to peacefully demonstrate, and to voice their opinion... Democracy. With the middle east at about 60% of the population under the age of 24, they naively look to the west as their role models, and see them as naturally partners for their ideals. But mark my words the youth are going to learn a bitter lesson, and the first of these are going to be in Egypt, Tunisia, and other countries. They are going to learn that the west has no interest in their ideals, and does not see them as allies, but quite the opposite.... as a threat, as a vicious dog that needs to be kept in chains within a cage. Oh, the youth will see, and they will as how can this be, why are they supporting this, turning a blind eye. Dark times are ahead, and they will be disillusioned with the west, and their so called liberties and ideals. But this will not be the end to their fate, they will begin to look within themselves, they will look back at their roots, and though some will inevitably take violent and dangerous path, the very youths that are out in the streets today will be the leaders of tomorrow, looking to their past and not to the west for change. And they will begin to desire Islam, and they will seek to reform themselves, and this will pave the way for what has promised to come. This is the beginning of the end. May Allah have mercy for us.
thats wat i was saying even if they are making mistakes they will learn from it as long as they are moving forward and not sitting around with the same situation bro...nice words man

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Re: What the muslim world will realize
right. this is what the most westerners fail to understand. they are bitterly opposed to "islamists" taking over in egypt ( or any other country for that matter) and are propagating the idea of "democracy" across the muslim world but when democracy fails to address the problems of the people, the people will turn back to islam. sooner or later the islamists will take over and i hope i'm around to see that happen.Perfect_Order wrote:they will begin to look within themselves, they will look back at their roots, and though some will inevitably take violent and dangerous path, the very youths that are out in the streets today will be the leaders of tomorrow, looking to their past and not to the west for change. And they will begin to desire Islam, and they will seek to reform themselves, and this will pave the way for what has promised to come. This is the beginning of the end. May Allah have mercy for us.

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Re: What the muslim world will realize
BV melodramatic innit like a prophesy
ciyaal yeah, it's dangerous times man, hard future for the egyptian youth, and very little possibility of material gain.
Gemeni if these "islamists" were really worth anything then they would of already taken over. Something greater must come, we shall see.

ciyaal yeah, it's dangerous times man, hard future for the egyptian youth, and very little possibility of material gain.

Gemeni if these "islamists" were really worth anything then they would of already taken over. Something greater must come, we shall see.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
To the contrary, the West does NOT want democracy for the Middle East and what is happening right now, the actual free aspirations of the people being realized, is their worst nightmare. What has democracy result in the Mid-East? They resulted in a theocratic Ayatollah state in Iran, a legitimate Hezbullah government in Lebanon (the Tunisia uprising totally overshadowed the big setback of the US in Lebanon), a democratically elected Hamas government in Gaza, and Islamist ruling party in secular Turkey, and a Iran-aligned government in Iraq. Obama hasn't even once said anything about "Democracy" with respect to Egypt's crisis. So while publicly the West has to keep chirping about democracy, privately they have long realized they do NOT want democracy for Muslims considering the West has interests that have been proven to be unpopular in the Arab/Muslim street.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
actually, even if things looks like getting worse , it getting better inshallah.
it will get worse to get better. poverty is what driving this chaos . Egyptian not like somalis. a huge educated people that even in middle of this chaos organizing and calming down the people.
it will get worse to get better. poverty is what driving this chaos . Egyptian not like somalis. a huge educated people that even in middle of this chaos organizing and calming down the people.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
Somali civil war was driven by nepotism/qabilsm I mean I dont think any of its population was starving.hyperactive wrote:actually, even if things looks like getting worse , it getting better inshallah.
it will get worse to get better. poverty is what driving this chaos . Egyptian not like somalis. a huge educated people that even in middle of this chaos organizing and calming down the people.
But in Egypt they are very civilised.
In the Arab world civility was mostly found in Egypt, Iraq and Syria.
the rest are just sand niggerz.
Its not in the interest of the muslim world or the west to see Egypt going down.
If Egypt goes down it will spark alot of unrests across the Arab world.
I guess Mubarak still will not cow in as he has assurances from the west.
But from Baraks speech it was more critical on Mubarak and the tone was more of we dont want you mubarak just like your people do not want you.
I guess its a matter of time before Mubarak either flees or calls for an election and steps down.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
that's why i said Egypt not like somalia or khaliij.
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
Islamist groups are extremely disorganized for the most part and the Ikwhan in Masar are not really popular
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Re: What the muslim world will realize
they were very popular with youth in universities, then later it all came down to scholars and high educated circles.FAH1223 wrote:Islamist groups are extremely disorganized for the most part and the Ikwhan in Masaryk are not really popular
Re: What the muslim world will realize
Perfect order,
But is the blame entirely with the protestors? (retorical question). The leader(s) also have a responsibility and should have the ability to put the interests of their nation and people before those of their own. Knowing exactly that which you wrote, knowing how the aspirations and values of their people are being manipulated, knowing the context in which the world is, they chose to ignore the inherent weakness of the model of leadership they imposed on teir country. So, I return to the question; is the blame entirely with the protestors?
But is the blame entirely with the protestors? (retorical question). The leader(s) also have a responsibility and should have the ability to put the interests of their nation and people before those of their own. Knowing exactly that which you wrote, knowing how the aspirations and values of their people are being manipulated, knowing the context in which the world is, they chose to ignore the inherent weakness of the model of leadership they imposed on teir country. So, I return to the question; is the blame entirely with the protestors?
Re: What the muslim world will realize
Mubarak 82 years old and still clinging on to power. WTF. The army are a bunch of whimps they can overthrow the goverment and declare marshall law. The Generals should do a coup. 

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