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Breaking News Talks Underway Between Al Shabaab Iyo Puntland

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Breaking News: Secret talks underway between Al Shabaab Iyo Puntland.

Somalinews: Top Al Shabaab officials and the Puntland government are believe to be in secret talks, now three weeks in process. An anonymous Puntland cabinet minister has confirmed to us this latest development. The Puntland region has recently decided to separate from the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia, dimming hopes for peace and stability as the government's internationally-backed mandate winds down.

It seems Puntland announcement to end its cooperation with the struggling administration in Mogadishu, has allowed the state to go into direct talks with the opposition. Top Al Shabaab officials are said to have been cooperating with the state, and a power sharing deal is currently the issue being discussed. The anonymous Puntland cabinet minister who broke the news said "Puntland is a peaceful part of Somalia, with a perfectly functioning administration, these talks are not for Puntland but Somalia as a whole. Our situation as a country is very ugly and Puntland is working hard to change the status quo". If these talks do continue and succeed, it will be a new dawn for Somalia, as Al Shabaab and Puntland together control most of Somalia.

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Thats very good news i hope this is true :up: :up:
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Somalian_Boqor wrote:Breaking News: Secret talks underway between Al Shabaab Iyo Puntland.

Somalinews: Top Al Shabaab officials and the Puntland government are believe to be in secret talks, now three weeks in process. An anonymous Puntland cabinet minister has confirmed to us this latest development. The Puntland region has recently decided to separate from the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia, dimming hopes for peace and stability as the government's internationally-backed mandate winds down.

It seems Puntland announcement to end its cooperation with the struggling administration in Mogadishu, has allowed the state to go into direct talks with the opposition. Top Al Shabaab officials are said to have been cooperating with the state, and a power sharing deal is currently the issue being discussed. The anonymous Puntland cabinet minister who broke the news said "Puntland is a peaceful part of Somalia, with a perfectly functioning administration, these talks are not for Puntland but Somalia as a whole. Our situation as a country is very ugly and Puntland is working hard to change the status quo". If these talks do continue and succeed, it will be a new dawn for Somalia, as Al Shabaab and Puntland together control most of Somalia.

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You must be a joke if you think Alshabaab is gonna listen Puntland, who they a consider an apostate, ethiopia vessel. if anything, they want to take over Puntland.
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IRONm@N wrote:You must be a joke if you think Alshabaab is gonna listen Puntland, who they a consider an apostate, ethiopia vessel. if anything, they want to take over Puntland.
Al Shabaab is slowing realizing taking all of Somali by force is unmaintainable. Puntland is a political force equal to Al Shabaab if not more powerful. Al Shabaab leadership are starting to open their eyes. These talks are good for Somalia in the long run. :som: :up:
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Somalian_Boqor wrote:
IRONm@N wrote:You must be a joke if you think Alshabaab is gonna listen Puntland, who they a consider an apostate, ethiopia vessel. if anything, they want to take over Puntland.
Al Shabaab is slowing realizing taking all of Somali by force is unmaintainable. Puntland is a political force equal to Al Shabaab if not more powerful. Al Shabaab leadership are starting to open their eyes. These talks are good for Somalia in the long run. :som: :up:

We would be hypocrites if we did not welcome such a move. Unfortunately that is as far from reality as Pland and Sland agreeing to a joint parliament in AUg2011 at the end of the TFG's term.

The only deal Pland can enter into is one in which Pland respects the authority of Shabab in Koonfur as a whole and agrees not to meddle in their affairs. This would eliminate TFG out of the picture and force Amisom to leave. or not.

Nice twist and entertaining to say the least.

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Somali Politics is unpredictable, so far these are rumors and word on the street. But in a week or so things will clear up.
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Somalian_Boqor wrote:Somali Politics is unpredictable, so far these are rumors and word on the street. But in a week or so things will clear up.

If that happens my admiration for Pland politics will be restored... they have been the sleeping dog since Fat boy got booted.

We shall see.
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Hopefully this is true :som: :up:
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If shabab didnt treat xisbul aweys with respect what makes you think they will do that with maamul ashahaado la dirir ah when they defeat the sufis?
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If this is true, it has nothing to do with having peace in Somalia, it has to do with something concerning Puntland, if Puntland wants to have peace in Somalia, they won't be disagree and fighting with TFG, which they were part of.


-Either they were so upset with TFG giving prime minister to Farmaajo, and telling their president to behave like a regional governor and not participate in international meetings, that they are allying with TFG's enemeys, "my enemy's enemy is my friend" philosophy.
-Or that they are afraid of the Ahlu Sunnah Waljamac Habergedir in Guriceel that just got fresh weapons from Ethiopia, and they trying to counter it.
- Or its a tactic to get TGF, AU or Ethiopia attention to include them in the government.

remember Puntland has a long history of fighting or extradating sheikhs, or fighting with Islamic groups, such as Al-itihad of 1990s, Islamic courts of 2000s and Abdullahi Yusuf's ethiopia war with Shabaab in 2006, so the last people they will have agreement is shabaab.
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IRONm@N wrote:If this is true, it has nothing to do with having peace in Somalia, it has to do with something concerning Puntland, if Puntland wants to have peace in Somalia, they won't be disagree and fighting with TFG, which they were part of.


-Either they were so upset with TFG giving prime minister to Farmaajo, and telling their president to behave like a regional governor and not participate in international meetings, that they are allying with TFG's enemeys, "my enemy's enemy is my friend" philosophy.
-Or that they are afraid of the Ahlu Sunnah Waljamac Habergedir in Guriceel that just got fresh weapons from Ethiopia, and they trying to counter it.
- Or its a tactic to get TGF, AU or Ethiopia attention to include them in the government.
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HutuKing01 wrote:If shabab didnt treat xisbul aweys with respect what makes you think they will do that with maamul ashahaado la dirir ah when they defeat the sufis?
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Respect is earned and not given. Like it or not Puntland is respected even by Al Shabaab. The state rules of 1/3 of the country, and is also the commercial hub of Somalia today. Al Shabaab have a lot to gain from Puntland, and creating a political alliance with this particular part of Somalia is key to it's political future.

Somalis have the right to decide what type of government they want. The choice belongs to the people and their leaders. UN, AU, Iyo IGAD will not bring peace to Somalia, only Somalis who are willing to compromise, can bring about the change that is needed.
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IRONm@N wrote:If this is true, it has nothing to do with having peace in Somalia, it has to do with something concerning Puntland, if Puntland wants to have peace in Somalia, they won't be disagree and fighting with TFG, which they were part of.
Your making no sense. The TFG can't bring about peace in Somalia, they control not a single village inside of Somalia. Expecting a Government that controls 4km of it's capital to restore peace in Somalia is delusional. Puntland controls 1/3 of Somalia while Al Shabaab controls another 1/3 of Somalia, a political alliance between these two entities can only bring about peace for the entire nation.
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Somalian_Boqor wrote:
IRONm@N wrote:If this is true, it has nothing to do with having peace in Somalia, it has to do with something concerning Puntland, if Puntland wants to have peace in Somalia, they won't be disagree and fighting with TFG, which they were part of.
Your making no sense. The TFG can't bring about peace in Somalia, they control not a single village inside of Somalia. Expecting a Government that controls 4km of it's capital to restore peace in Somalia is delusional. Puntland controls 1/3 of Somalia while Al Shabaab controls another 1/3 of Somalia, a political alliance between these two entities can only bring about peace for the entire nation.
First of all this isn't 1/3 of Somalia, more like 1/5 of Somalia, and if you take Sool and Sanaag out, its even less.

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Second of TFG is internationally recognized and has the backing of EU, AU, UN and US, where is Puntland and Alshabaab isn't. and If puntland wants to take that stupid route of opposing TFG and allying with Alshabaab on top of pirating, that is all Sheikh Shariif needs to send Ethiopia or AU to neuturalize it.
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