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Prehistoric paintings of antelope, snakes and giraffes that have survived for around 5,000 years are now under threat from looting and a lack of protection.

The rock paintings, which include renderings of dogs and sheep as well as human figures, were discovered at Dhambalin, in a unique sandstone shelter close to the Red Sea in Somaliland, a breakaway state from war-torn Somalia.

They were found by Dr. Sada Mire in 2007, in what she says was first ever survey initiated and led by a Somali archaeologist in the region. Since then, Mire has discovered 100 cave and rock art sites across Somaliland, but they need desperately to be preserved.

Mire said the sites are not only vital to the understanding of pre-history across the Horn of Africa, but also important in bolstering cultural pride in the people of Somaliland.

"That gives them a sense of dignity and that they are not totally desperate, they have something that the world thinks is very valuable," she said.



But Somaliland is in need of help and infrastructure to safeguard its ancient heritage.

Although it declared independence from Somalia in 1991, Somaliland is not internationally recognized as a separate state. This means that its sites cannot be granted World Heritage status by UNESCO.

According to Francesco Bandarin, UNESCO's Assistant Director-General for Culture, Somalia is one of the few member states not to have ratified its 1972 World Heritage Convention, meaning that its sites are not eligible for World Heritage status.

Heritage workers in Somaliland therefore face a dilemma, said Dr. Dacia Viejo-Rose, a Researcher at the Cultural Heritage and the Reconstruction of Identities after Conflict project at the McDonald Institute for Archaeological Research, part of the University of Cambridge in the UK.

"They can choose to protect their heritage as Somalian and lobby the government and the ministry of culture in Somalia to present (their case) to UNESCO," she said.

Or, they can "stick to the fact that it's not Somalia's heritage but Somaliland's," in which case they can't then follow that path.

"The question is, which is the priority? To protect the distinctiveness of Somaliland or to protect the heritage no matter what and who is claiming it?" she continued.

Another problem faced by Mire is the lack of museums in which to store objects. Mire writes on her website Somali Heritage and Archaeology, that museums in Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia, and second largest city Hargeisa, have suffered severe looting during the ongoing civil war. Somaliland still lacks a museum.

"At the moment we do not do any excavations because we are not able to host objects," said Mire. She believes that there are many sites in Somaliland awaiting discovery.

"The best way to protect (objects) is to take them straight to a laboratory (in a museum) and give them first aid," she continued.

Educating Somalis about their heritage is another important task for Mire, who heads Somaliland's Department of Antiquities, a branch of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism, which she helped establish.

While human sweat is enough to damage the delicate rock paintings, burial sites nearby are often looted for artifacts that are sold on to illicit antiquities traders. Looting tends to be done by locals, who are unaware of the archaeological significance of their sites, Mire said.

"You have a whole base of very, very poor people digging sites and getting peanuts for it," Mire said.

Despite these issues, though, progress is being made. Mire is creating an inventory of sites across Somaliland and drafting antiquities laws to protect them.

"We just drive away for weeks and disappear into the desert," she said.

"Usually we take albums and show locals pictures of the sites we are looking for," she added.

She has elected local Somalis to be custodians of the sites and hopes that they can benefit in future from tourism.

In her eyes, it is important for the people to feel that their heritage belongs to them.

Look at few pics of the new caves, as well as the first one to be found. :mrgreen:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/afric ... .cave.art/
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Complicated19 wrote::|
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"They can choose to protect their heritage as Somalian and lobby the government and the ministry of culture in Somalia to present (their case) to UNESCO," she said.

Or, they can "stick to the fact that it's not Somalia's heritage but Somaliland's," in which case they can't then follow that path
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What idiots. They'd rather these artefacts were destroyed than have them associated with Somalia. These jaahils dont deserve recognition if they behave like this.
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These sites are in sanaag, and 5000 years ago there was no isaaq there lol,even 50 years ago. so these paintings which they say is telling their history isn't really theres. :mrgreen:
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Qawil is a somali invention and since gentics can localise the somali gene as being unique to the horn of africa it is self hating of any somali to reject the notion that us somalis have always lived along the coast of africa.

Our Ancestors dominated the whole of east africa, unfortunately unlike the west of africa we are exposed to other Races via north africa and through the middle east... Our bloodline diluted remains pure only in the horn of africa due to it's inhospitable envirnoment.

Stop hating yourself somali only 4000 years ago your ancestors were worshiped like gods on earth. We are ancient People
:D Ancheology will one day reveal our anceint past..

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ArcadeFire wrote:
"They can choose to protect their heritage as Somalian and lobby the government and the ministry of culture in Somalia to present (their case) to UNESCO," she said.

Or, they can "stick to the fact that it's not Somalia's heritage but Somaliland's," in which case they can't then follow that path
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What idiots. They'd rather these artefacts were destroyed than have them associated with Somalia. These jaahils dont deserve recognition if they behave like this.
:lol: :lol:
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:lol:

who gives a sh!d about 20,000 year old cave paintings, only cadaan wannabe somalis, we care more about survival at this point.
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Advo wrote::lol:

who gives a sh!d about 20,000 year old cave paintings, only cadaan wannabe somalis, we care more about survival at this point.
Sada Mire gives a shid. :lol:
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Sada mires family and my family are close friends, her grandma used to take care of me, when my parents almost divorced 1994. Sada mire is from Sweden and she is a nice humanbeing. And unfortunately she is a Somaliland patriot. But neverhenless a smart and ambitious women :up:
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Coeus wrote:Sada mires family and my family are close friends, her grandma used to take care of me, when my parents almost divorced 1994. Sada mire is from Sweden and she is a nice humanbeing. And unfortunately she is a Somaliland patriot. But neverhenless a smart and ambitious women :up:
nimanyoow meeshani waxay noqotay meel dadku ey waxay doonaanba isaga yidhaadhaan, :down:
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Cumar-Labasuul wrote:
Coeus wrote:Sada mires family and my family are close friends, her grandma used to take care of me, when my parents almost divorced 1994. Sada mire is from Sweden and she is a nice humanbeing. And unfortunately she is a Somaliland patriot. But neverhenless a smart and ambitious women :up:
nimanyoow meeshani waxay noqotay meel dadku ey waxay doonaanba isaga yidhaadhaan, :down:
Stop changing the subject. Either you contribute to this thread or you leave it :up:
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Cumar-Labasuul wrote:
Coeus wrote:Sada mires family and my family are close friends, her grandma used to take care of me, when my parents almost divorced 1994. Sada mire is from Sweden and she is a nice humanbeing. And unfortunately she is a Somaliland patriot. But neverhenless a smart and ambitious women :up:
nimanyoow meeshani waxay noqotay meel dadku ey waxay doonaanba isaga yidhaadhaan, :down:
There's nothing wrong with what he said :roll:
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OK then: I had a fight with my mum today and she kicked me out of the house.
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