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ANY SAMARONS THAT DIE IN KALSHALEH (maydkiisa laguma tukan )

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Dhulbahante iyo qabiilkaste oo kaleba sida Isaaqa waxay xaq lama taabtaan ah u leeyihiin inay difaacaan dulkooda iyo dadkooda kana difaacan cidkaste oyna rabin maamulkooda waxa kale oy xaq u leeyihiin dhulkooda inay maamul gaara ka sameystaan madaama nidaamki dhexe ee somali u dhanayd meesha ka baxay labaatan sano ka hor amba dhinacii kale ee ay raali ka yihiin majorityga dhulbahante iyo warsangali ay raacaan sida puntland amba somaliland laakin hadii ay ka soo bodeen maamulka isaaq ee ka jira waqooyiga somalia ma lafba ku jaban?

Dhubahante waxa uu diiday in loo taliyo dhulkoodana cid aan iyaga ahayni sheegtan ,dadkiisana laayaan iyagoo ku hoos gabanaya nidaam ku sheeg dawladeed oo qabiil dhakada ka wato hadaba dadka dagaalka kula jira maleeshiyada isaaqa si ay dhulkooda u xoreystaan gadabuursi ma xaqbuu ugu leeyahay inuu yidhaahdo sidayda dhabadhilif u noqda isaaq oo xabada joojiya?

Anigu waxan qaba ninka Gababuursi ee ka qayb qaata dagaalkaas xaraanta ah ee lagu laayay dadka rayidka ah iyadoo loo adeegsanayo nidaam dawladeed oo xaraan ku dhisan inaan maydkiisa lagu tukan maadaama uu dadkiisa naftiisu u hori kari wayay laakinse uu karey inuu u dhinto danaha beesha isaaqa oo maanta dulaan ku ah beelaha darifyada xiga waxana hubaal ah si la mid ah gumaadka hada ay ka wadaan degaanka kalshaale inay ugu xijisiin doonaan degaanada awdal ee hadaba ay muranka galiyeen sida ceelbardaale iyo lughayaba iyo meelkaste oo ka mid ah dhulka awdal markaste uu damac ka galo.

Waxan leeyahay gabagabada qoraalkaygan gaaban ninka gadabuursi ee taageersan in dagaalka laga qayb galo oo gadabuursi si toos ah iyo si dadbanba u taageero Bohol hadimo ha Qodin hadaad Qodidna ha Dheerayn ku Dhici Doontana Mooye.


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http://harowo.com/2011/02/24/dhulbahant ... ari-wayay/
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If a Gadabursi is involved, he should be spitted on whilst putting him in his grave. Plus his grave should be stoned once a year for ritual purposes.

Plus he should be shamed and his family must not be allowed to marry any other person from Gadabursi, they should be exiled to hargeisa :D

P.S No inter Somali fighting should be considered allowed. This looks like a clan fight, not between a state and a jabhad.

Its a clan fight ppl!
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samaroon they should not be part of clan fight ... its shame wallahi :?
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As a matter of fact, Samaroons and the Dhulos used to have a historical friendship..and party called the USP...It is surprising to the Dhulos that a Samaroon guy will die in Dhulos land for Somaliland Army...At the end of the day Somalis are dying from both sides...I hope Siilaanyo will come to his sense and stop the aggression..You can't force people to secede from the rest of Somalis..
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kambuli wrote:As a matter of fact, Samaroons and the Dhulos used to have a historical friendship..and party called the USP...It is surprising to the Dhulos that a Samaroon guy will die in Dhulos land for Somaliland Army...At the end of the day Somalis are dying from both sides...I hope Siilaanyo will come to his sense and stop the aggression..You can't force people to secede from the rest of Somalis..
Siilaanyo waa 4th time kii uu nabad ku baaqo. But it is the other side that is determined to see war.
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why blow this out of proportion?

This is not yet a clan fight, nor any fight at all...

siilanyo is still asking for peacetalks after all the provacation...
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gurey25 wrote:why blow this out of proportion?

This is not yet a clan fight, nor any fight at all...

siilanyo is still asking for peacetalks after all the provacation...
how come he wants peace when three daraiwshii solder died in the fight ...!!!

if he want peace let him stop his war in ground not only words
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FBISOMALIA wrote:
gurey25 wrote:why blow this out of proportion?

This is not yet a clan fight, nor any fight at all...

siilanyo is still asking for peacetalks after all the provacation...
how come he wants peace when three daraiwshii solder died in the fight ...!!!

if he want peace let him stop his war in ground not only words
Are you for real. Somaliland has not invaded or gone into Buuhoodle. It is the SSC milita that has attacked Somaliland military bases. Let me remind you that conflict requires two (or more) opposing forces, the blame rarely lies with just one side.

The objective of the SSC milita, funded and given weapons by Puntland, is to destabilise Somaliland. They are against Somalliland and want to seize the regions of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. This milita has on countless occations attacked the citizens of Somaliland as well as military bases and Silaanyo, as the president, has the obligation to defend the country and its people from this milita. Yesterday was the 4th time kii uu Silaanyo nabad ku baaqo. But it is the other side that is determined to see war. Now that Puntland and militias from Caabud-waaq have joined the SSC side it is clear that the Somaliland government has to defend its people, especially since the Puntland commander has said, rather optimistically, that 'will go all the way to Hargeisa'.
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Waar heedhaha caqli ma jiro eh...Maxaa idinka jira dadka dhulkooda :?

Do you really think that you can force the Dhulos to accept :sland: ?

Maxaadse ku faanaysaan? Acuudu Bilaah...Ma Dhulos iyo Qabiilka Isaaq baa is le'eg? Even if Puntland comes to help which is not the truth, still...Ma MJ/Dhulos
iyo Isaaq baa siman?

You are accusing Puntland because you want to make the case look like a tribal war, but guess what every Somali knows it is beyond qabiil, it is a Nation War..It is a war between unionst and secessionst...As a matter of fact all :som: should be fighting against the aggression of :sland: No one wants it...

LOL@Siilaanyaa nabad ku baaqay... :down: You and I know that this is a propaganda..Siilaanyo can't live without a war...
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I retract what I say, if this is a clan war, may Allah heal them and its better to find a solution
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kalshaale disputed area between hj and dhulos. they fought over it Somaliland president put the Somaliland army there to protect these clan from fighting then the Dhulos meleshiyo attacked the Somaliland army the Sl army defended them selfs that it nothing else.
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juzme123 wrote:
FBISOMALIA wrote:
gurey25 wrote:why blow this out of proportion?

This is not yet a clan fight, nor any fight at all...

siilanyo is still asking for peacetalks after all the provacation...
how come he wants peace when three daraiwshii solder died in the fight ...!!!

if he want peace let him stop his war in ground not only words
Are you for real. Somaliland has not invaded or gone into Buuhoodle. It is the SSC milita that has attacked Somaliland military bases. Let me remind you that conflict requires two (or more) opposing forces, the blame rarely lies with just one side.

The objective of the SSC milita, funded and given weapons by Puntland, is to destabilise Somaliland. They are against Somalliland and want to seize the regions of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. This milita has on countless occations attacked the citizens of Somaliland as well as military bases and Silaanyo, as the president, has the obligation to defend the country and its people from this milita. Yesterday was the 4th time kii uu Silaanyo nabad ku baaqo. But it is the other side that is determined to see war. Now that Puntland and militias from Caabud-waaq have joined the SSC side it is clear that the Somaliland government has to defend its people, especially since the Puntland commander has said, rather optimistically, that 'will go all the way to Hargeisa'.
Cut the nonsense man. The conflict initiated when your clan started digging water holes a terroritory that is not theirs. There were calls for them to stop digging those waterholes. Your clan elders initially asked for time to be given so they can stop the digging and they were given. They asked for 1 month. When that one month ended, Dhulbahante traditional elders asked your elders the 1 month duration is over and the digging of those waterholes is contuining. Your traditional elders asked for another month and it was agreed with additional month. When that month again was over and Dhulbahante traditional elders came back, they saw additional waterholes being dug in the Kalshaale area. When your traditional elders were asked why they have not accomplished what they have stated they will do, they have stated the man started digging the water holes, the brother of Salleebaan Gaal, refused to stop digging it and there is nothing that we can do about since he is not listening any one. After that took place, Dhulbahante youth went to Kalshaale Bali and buried those water holes. That HJ man who started digging the waterholes and his sons setup a checkpoint on the road between Buuhoodle and Burao and when one Dhulbahante truck came thru the road, killed one of the man on the truck. I believe he was the truck driver. After that relatives of the deceased retailed that men and his sons. He was killed and two of his sons were also killed + the other men who were also digging the water holes. Somaliland sent its militia and stated it was going to mediate. A delegate was setup to mediate the two clans. The Isaaq delegates and their culima came up a decision that the water holes will stay and if you want Dhulbahante you can build your own water holes in the same bali (small lake). Dhulbahante rejected that verdict since it was only Isaaq delegates who wanted that verdict and it was agreed that there is a need to re-look this issue again. After that, an skirmish happened between Dhulbahante and HJ and SL militia intervened in behalf of HJ and attack Dhulbahante nomads who were fighting against the HJ nomads and killed 6 Dhulbahante nomads. This is how the conflict started. After that attack where SL militia used its technicals to support HJ, Cayn region Defense Force was assembled by Dhulbahante in that region and they launched an offensive against Somaliland troops. This is the fight that SL lost 75 men whereas on the Cayn Region defense force lost 11 men. Your Somaliland president Siilaanyo stated he will remove his militia from Kalshaale since they have become part of the conflict. On February 20, the Somaliland (SL) militia initiated an attack even tough their president claimed two days earlier that he will remove them from Kalshaale. In that attack also they failed in their mission of capturing the Cayn region of Somalia and they were defeated. On February 23, 2011, the SL militia started artillery barrage against the Cayn region Defense Forces and again a similar response was given. This is where the conflict stand now. You are the agressor in any way you look at it.

Don't forget Siilaanyo's call for All Isaaq men and women to join the battle and the call from your leader Nuux Taani that ONLF, Al-Shabaab, and PL attacked them all together. Your three kangaroo parties UCID, Kulmiye, and UDUB have all issued calls that they are fighting Al-Shabaab and ONLF where in fact it is the popular ressitance of Cayn region's Defense forces who have defeated all of your SL leaders' mission of seizing territories where the inhabitants of that region do not want your admin :idea:
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The_Emperior5 wrote:kalshaale disputed area between hj and dhulos. they fought over it Somaliland president put the Somaliland army there to protect these clan from fighting then the Dhulos meleshiyo attacked the Somaliland army the Sl army defended them selfs that it nothing else.
The ussual trash talk every SLer puts out. It is basically your SL admin and your Isaaq clans trying to make people accept their admin and Dhulbahante community saying no and you are trying to use your militia and you have failed in your mission.

Kalshaale is a Dhulbahante territory and you are encouraging a territory that doesn't belong to you.
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djibsomali wrote:Dhulbahante iyo qabiilkaste oo kaleba sida Isaaqa waxay xaq lama taabtaan ah u leeyihiin inay difaacaan dulkooda iyo dadkooda kana difaacan cidkaste oyna rabin maamulkooda waxa kale oy xaq u leeyihiin dhulkooda inay maamul gaara ka sameystaan madaama nidaamki dhexe ee somali u dhanayd meesha ka baxay labaatan sano ka hor amba dhinacii kale ee ay raali ka yihiin majorityga dhulbahante iyo warsangali ay raacaan sida puntland amba somaliland laakin hadii ay ka soo bodeen maamulka isaaq ee ka jira waqooyiga somalia ma lafba ku jaban?

Dhubahante waxa uu diiday in loo taliyo dhulkoodana cid aan iyaga ahayni sheegtan ,dadkiisana laayaan iyagoo ku hoos gabanaya nidaam ku sheeg dawladeed oo qabiil dhakada ka wato hadaba dadka dagaalka kula jira maleeshiyada isaaqa si ay dhulkooda u xoreystaan gadabuursi ma xaqbuu ugu leeyahay inuu yidhaahdo sidayda dhabadhilif u noqda isaaq oo xabada joojiya?

Anigu waxan qaba ninka Gababuursi ee ka qayb qaata dagaalkaas xaraanta ah ee lagu laayay dadka rayidka ah iyadoo loo adeegsanayo nidaam dawladeed oo xaraan ku dhisan inaan maydkiisa lagu tukan maadaama uu dadkiisa naftiisu u hori kari wayay laakinse uu karey inuu u dhinto danaha beesha isaaqa oo maanta dulaan ku ah beelaha darifyada xiga waxana hubaal ah si la mid ah gumaadka hada ay ka wadaan degaanka kalshaale inay ugu xijisiin doonaan degaanada awdal ee hadaba ay muranka galiyeen sida ceelbardaale iyo lughayaba iyo meelkaste oo ka mid ah dhulka awdal markaste uu damac ka galo.

Waxan leeyahay gabagabada qoraalkaygan gaaban ninka gadabuursi ee taageersan in dagaalka laga qayb galo oo gadabuursi si toos ah iyo si dadbanba u taageero Bohol hadimo ha Qodin hadaad Qodidna ha Dheerayn ku Dhici Doontana Mooye.


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http://harowo.com/2011/02/24/dhulbahant ... ari-wayay/

DJibSomali,

Great article :som: :up:
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He was killed and two of his sons were also killed + the other men who were also digging the water holes.
Walle ninkii dab wada isagaa ku gubto. :up: It would be more bothersome if he started this incident which was responsible for the death hundreds and he and his dumb sons were still alive.
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