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Post by Monk-of-Mogadishu »

So much money is being poured into this physically dead but symbolically thriving government. Its easy to understand why it is so important for Puntland to stress its share of this money. The money being spent on developing the areas around Xamar's port is more than all the money spent in all the other parts of the country combined. Buunlaayn should step up the hustle, we really need to put another fatty in Villa Somalia. :?



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You can't compare the Bantustan port to that of the capital.

Buntiland has declared its defacto independence and so must contend with its reprecussions: isolation and the TFG's blockade of the resistive rebel held areas of Shababistan and Buntiland.
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Xamar is not a stable port. Half the city belongs to opposition and everywhere in every direction for nearly 500km of Xamar is enemy territory. Investing upwards of $100 million on its port is a futile exercise and one that I don't understand. There is not nearly enough economic activity to warrant it, the money is just being spent to aggressively make money for contractors, otherwise it really has no urgency or importance.

Bosaso can be for the TFG/AMISOM/whatever international union is working in Xamar what Berbera has become for Ethiopia. Anyway, I am certain that the next gov't will be based in Garowe so it would make sense to start upgrading Bosaso port. A bigger Bosaso port and better roads south of Gaalkacyo means better and more reliable delivery of weapons and necessities for pro-TFG areas in Central regions.
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Monk,

BUntiland only supports Somaliweyn projects if one of them is in charge. When they are not in charge, they sabotage the projects.

To be honest, Benadir alone has a greater GDP than Puntland and Somaliland combined and a much larger market. If I was the TFG, I would strictly just focus on retaining Benadir and saying Fock off to the rest of the country.
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More money is generated from that port in a month ever since it was secured from all non-TFG control then Puntland and Somaliland generate locally in a year. Besides UN donated money, the TFG basically runs on the port. What makes you think that little village-like control center could not have been built from the money the port generates itself? Everything about your understanding of funding in Somalia comes with beggar-tinged lenses.
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AW, no one is doubting the value of Xamar as a port, but re-read what I said - it is UNSTABLE. Just because your girlfriend is hot doesn't mean you should marry her. The fat chick (Bosaso) will make a better wife in the long run. With proper maintenance you can turn the fat chick into the hot chick and have the best of both worlds. All it would take is a few million bucks to make Bosaso on par with Xamar in quality, Berbera already beats Xamar in terms of infrastructure and capacity, it can be done easily for Bosaso and the business would already be there. The Ethiopians don't complain about not having a port and yet the TFG and its supporters are too spoiled to put some of their eggs in Bosaso. Personally I don't think any Puntlander wants to control the TFG, that saga ended long ago, now we just want to be treated as a parcel of it.

Revenues from the port fluctuate between $10 an $20 million annually for the gov't, this money is treated as nothing more than war booty, after all the port is controlled by warlord personalities. I have high doubts any of them would spend it on rebuilding unless it was absolutely necessary. This money comes from the white folk, and I'm confident that the white folk are seeing Garowe as an exit strategy for the next TFG.
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Power/Money hungry MJ's :lol: , why don't yall use that pirate money :lol: :lol:
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One of the first things Farmaajo did as prime minister to convince the international community this wasn't business as usual was put Price Waterhouse in charge of overseeing TFG funds which included internationally promised money at that Belgium meeting as well as profits from the ports and other taxes. The old corrupt management in place since Yusuf was changed a while ago and the current manager is a young, western educated guy who is said to hate corruption. His name is Cali Macalin. 100% of the port security is provided by AMISOM. This isn't the time when security of the port was dependent on placating warlords and their militias. They are irrelevant.

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Also, you don't make sense with comparing Mogadishu port to Bosaaso port. Besides Mogadishu having 100X the capacity of any port in Somalia, it is also home to the largest urban population, and in the south where most of Somalia's commerce takes place. You can't compare a regional port like Bosaaso which can serve as a hub to the northeast with a national port and strategically place. But what can you say to a guy who even thinks of Garoowe being included in Somalia's equation as a solution.

The West has chief priorities and secondary. Secondary is resurgence of a state, primary is immediate counter terrorism. The only thing that will be considered primary policy is what directly impacts counter-terrorism. The focus will never allow non-south areas to be factored in the national attempt to impact counterterrorism.
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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Monk,

BUntiland only supports Somaliweyn projects if one of them is in charge. When they are not in charge, they sabotage the projects.

To be honest, Benadir alone has a greater GDP than Puntland and Somaliland combined and a much larger market. If I was the TFG, I would strictly just focus on retaining Benadir and saying Fock off to the rest of the country.
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Xamar cadey our beloved capital
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At the end of the day both ports are Somali ports and we are happy for both of them. Mogadisho or Xamar Caddey port is in our Capital :rose: :up:It is getting there and peace is coming :kiss: Bosaso post is a big port too not like Mogadisho but stable :rose:

Both of them Maasha Allaah :up: :som:
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Voltage wrote:More money is generated from that port in a month ever since it was secured from all non-TFG control then Puntland and Somaliland generate locally in a year. Besides UN donated money, the TFG basically runs on the port. What makes you think that little village-like control center could not have been built from the money the port generates itself? Everything about your understanding of funding in Somalia comes with beggar-tinged lenses.
:lol: :lol: this is the typical Somali way of thinking..wax ineey qabsadaan waa ka xaaran.. :lol: :down:
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Somalia is Mogadishu and Mogadishu is Somalia... that's all that really needs to be said.
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FAH1223 wrote:Somalia is Mogadishu and Mogadishu is Somalia... that's all that really needs to be said.

FAH,

Shid, if the TFG just controls Benadir, that is all they need to gain popular legitimacy. The really focked up with is that the Port of Mogadishu is the only one that provides the TFG with financial resources while Bosaaso doesn't share any revenues yet wants to dip into the little that the TFG gets.

Personally, the Banadir Administration should lean on the TFG to give it more than the 5% of revenues it currently gets.

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AbdiWahab252 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:Somalia is Mogadishu and Mogadishu is Somalia... that's all that really needs to be said.

FAH,

Shid, if the TFG just controls Benadir, that is all they need to gain popular legitimacy. The really focked up with is that the Port of Mogadishu is the only one that provides the TFG with financial resources while Bosaaso doesn't share any revenues yet wants to dip into the little that the TFG gets.

Personally, the Banadir Administration should lean on the TFG to give it more than the 5% of revenues it currently gets.

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