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Genocide In Somali

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:21 pm
by hanad_mn
So lets come Clean.

I know most of you were either young or not born in 1991-1996. lets share some worst cases that we have seen or heard that happen in somalia. One of the disturbing stories that I have heard is one that some friend told. He said boys used to go to the madhiban houses in mudug, pick the girl of their choice from the family and rape. No consequences at all. He said those boys did that while the girls father, brothers and mother were watching with tears. I know there are Millions of similar stories. let us share. it is part of acknowledgement for what happen. what you have seen or heard from a first hand witness.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:33 pm
by hanad_mn
I like the silence and denial. Like non of you have been in somalia when those athrocities were taking place. If I would ask about the hallocaust, hundred of you would come out to answer. No one want to acknowledge that anything happen in somalia. Abgaal were not uprooted from Muqdisho, there was no fight between caato and caydiid clans, nothing happen between xawaadle and ogaden in Beletweyn, nothing happen between ogaden and harti in kismaayo. Half qiyaamo in gaalkacyo was some myth stories. Nothing happen between mareexaan and ogaden in kismaayo. Murusade were not named kuwait after they were attacked by habargidir. USC did nothing in baydhabo. all those factions that had SSS names did nothing.

so nothing happen. everybody is happy.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:26 pm
by Archerr
Half qiyaamo in gaalkacyo was some myth stories.
I have never heard of this. Can you expand on it a little more?

ps. I had no idea they had Madhibaan in Mudug. I thought they were only in the North.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:36 pm
by Voltage
For Somalis, it is better to forgive and forget. No point in rehashing the past.

Archerr, both Maryan Mursal and Gen Ali Samantar are Madhiban from Gaalkacyo.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:43 pm
by hanad_mn
Voltage wrote:For Somalis, it is better to forgive and forget. No point in rehashing the past.

Archerr, both Maryan Mursal and Gen Ali Samantar are Madhiban from Gaalkacyo.
Voltage,

I think the only way people can forget and reconcile is to acknowledge it and forgive each other. just downplaying it would not heal the wounds. south Africa dead that, so was hutus and Tutsis. Untill we acknowledge fully what happen starting from Waqooyi in 1998 to 1996, Somalis would never have love and affection for one another.

Archerr,

Cali Samatar is not madhiban. He is tumaal. Maryan mursal and cabdi tahliil are from Mudug. actually, there are more Madhiban in South Somalia than most of the big qabils. It is just that they never live in one place. If all of them come together, they could be more than most big qabils.half qiyaamo is when Caydiid's forces captured gaalkacyo and started Cleansing Majeerteen from the town. I mean any majeerteen found be it sheikh, jiis, sick, old or young. Some were even thrown on a well called yamayska. It was very horiffic and graphic.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:22 am
by zaahidun
somaali xasuuqyadii ka dhacay hadii la tiriyo maba dhamaanayaan cid walba meeshey ku adkeyd ayeey inta kale ku xasuuqday , qabaailada aan wax suubin na waa kuwa wax ;agu suubiyay ee tabar dari u geysay iney aarsan kari waayaan marka wixii dhacay wey dheceen ,hawiye inuu ka laayay daarood waxaa ka badan inta uu isaga iska laayay ,habar gidir inta eey ka leeydaday hawiyaha kale waxaa ka badan inta eey iska leeyday ,abgaal ina uu iska laayay ayaa ka badan inta uu qabiilada ka laayay .
marka anaga kaliya ayaa nala xasuuqay ma taagno oo dadka wey isku waraaboben . ninwalbana kuu kaxoogbadiyay ayuu cunay .

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:01 am
by Spursman
:up: we need to move on forgive and forget we need a closer ruunti.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:08 am
by Hyperactive
never heard of this, how can happen? i understand few accident of rape but if you mean this was a norm and boy's family and muslim society accepted as norm. that's unforgivable and muslim nimada somalia ba shaki o jirta!!

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:13 am
by Kukri
Whats the point discussing what should be left to rest?

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:24 am
by Spursman
hyperactive wrote:never heard of this, how can happen? i understand few accident of rape but if you mean this was a norm and boy's family and muslim society accepted as norm. that's unforgivable and muslim nimada somalia ba shaki o jirta!!
I dont think it was norm saxib it was some incidents jahiliya days like arabs had jahiliya time magaratey

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:04 am
by Hyperactive
Spursman wrote:
hyperactive wrote:never heard of this, how can happen? i understand few accident of rape but if you mean this was a norm and boy's family and muslim society accepted as norm. that's unforgivable and muslim nimada somalia ba shaki o jirta!!
I dont think it was norm saxib it was some incidents jahiliya days like arabs had jahiliya time magaratey
how jahiliyah times when he is saying was in 1991 and after, somalis where none muslims or worshipping idols in 1991?

dont come to such excuse!! they knew better and they were muslims and 3olama bey ko de7jirtay that can stop that!!

it happened or not that's im asking and no one was talking about ?

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:09 am
by Kukri
hyperactive wrote:
Spursman wrote:
hyperactive wrote:never heard of this, how can happen? i understand few accident of rape but if you mean this was a norm and boy's family and muslim society accepted as norm. that's unforgivable and muslim nimada somalia ba shaki o jirta!!
I dont think it was norm saxib it was some incidents jahiliya days like arabs had jahiliya time magaratey
how jahiliyah times when he is saying was in 1991 and after, somalis where none muslims or worshipping idols in 1991?

dont come to such excuse!! they knew better and they were muslims and 3olama bey ko de7jirtay that can stop that!!

it happened or not that's im asking and no one was talking about ?
:lol: :lol:

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:10 am
by sheekh-Farax-zero
thread starter,

you foccking lier,, the Madhibans of Gaalkacyo are armed, whenever one of theirs got killed, they retaliate no matter which clan you belong to, in fact Gaalkacyo is the only place in somalia where Madhibans don't suffer grave abuse or injustice at the hands of other clans.

Re: Genocide In Somali

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:34 am
by abdalla11
Archerr wrote:
ps. I had no idea they had Madhibaan in Mudug. I thought they were only in the North.
There are, the most famous Madhibaans hail from Mudug such as Gailaan Nour Gurey and Aayax Dhoowre who were Darwiish commanders. Dad la iska daandaansan karo mahan