Isaq samaron ciise Fiqishini S/landers should support ssc

[CORRUPTION]

As most Somalilanders isaaqs and samarooon in particular opposed the ssc Clan Militia and their Simplistic narrative ways and attempts to fight Somaliland. To decribe the accurately the power of the Isaaq and samaroon clans as power vectors operative in Somaliland some of the underlying Patterns will draw a clear picture why the ssc Movement currently will benifit the samaroon and isaaq what many isaaq and samaroon fail to realize is that the ssc cause is actually in favour of the isaaq samaroon interest with in Somaliland. But this invaluable stability in the regions of the isaaq and samaroon will give us the superiority to extend our Political powers in the future.Currently the status quo of the ssc Groups and its supporters cannot harm Isaaq and samaroon in Somaliland nor are they capable of blocking development in the regions of the isaaq and samaroon only the development in the regions of the Dhulbahantas which is not a bad thing.

This will give the isaaq and the samaroon a lead in the next two decades politically economically , this is the early stage of their jabhad even if they Manage to combat the Somaliland army in central sool and eastern sool this will not harm or prevent isaaq and samaroon development in Somaliland even if they seize parts of sool and establish their authority they will continue in fighting the one that hails from their clan on the Somaliland side and the one from Puntland like what happened in tukaraq few weeks ago. Which will keep them busy for another decade or years so it's in the interest of the isaaq that the ssc projects continue's to exist it will sabbotage the life of their people as a whole their regions will continue to be undevelopment because it will remain a battlezone one thing i know certainly Somaliland will never give up the central and eastern parts of sool.We should not block any one who is willing to Join Somaliland but only a few individuals based on their credentials the likes of keyse haabsade cali sandule Hamse gaadaweyne are guys on our payroll we should reject any Dhulbahannte that suggests or offers a possible power sharing formula for his clan and tries to represent his region. Development projects should only take place in the isaaq and gadabuursi territories the one who are willing to represent their region should be fired when the dhulbahantes refer Somaliland as an isaaq and samaroon project it's not a bad mentality we should encourage such mentality in their brain and mindset when the regions of western sool sanaag togdheer saahil maroodijeex gabiley and awdal get fundings we should just bribe some of their elders with some of the fundings we get .In the mean time the ssc Group will continue to fight the so called SNM they are fighting and Continue to chant slogans against beesha isaaq as agressors.

Hence we seemed to be having the begining of new way of doing politcs we should not hire honest hardworking educated Dhulbahantes but the corrupt selfish individuals as we are doing right now self styled garaads using them against the existing Garaads who are not any better then the one we have created . Another point that will benefit especially the Hj and Hy in sool and sanaag regions is the lack of authority from the harti side present in the region. The only authority is that of the republic of Somaliland and this Somaliland will not favour hy and HJ over the Hartis in the sool and sanaag region. but the lack of their inactivity and political willingness to coexisience with the rest of Somaliland will favour the Hy and hj and who knows they have expansionist agendas we have seeen that with the kalshaale wars Hj salamadow in particular went to war with a group of Farah garaad from Buhoodle but they do not consider themselves Somalilanders which is great Plus for us.We can easliy exercise our political and millatary might to defend the Isaaq interest and territories in the buhoodle region worse case scenario let's say if the speaker of the parliament or the vice president was from Buhoodle how do you think the situation would've looked like not that good. But the speaker of the senate Guurti is himself from Quriligud Buhoodle region and the president is his cousin nor are the oppossition from the buhoodle or laascaanood region ucid or udub That's another advantage we cannot be harmed inside Somaliland if we continue this political ideology we will be successful.Other than single mothers demonstrating in London infront david camarons office.Another advantage we have is the Mps from the Dhulbahante and warsangali clan are not voted for they are just appointed by the Guurti elders every 5 years even if the majority of reerlaascanood do not support Somaliland elections like they did last year only 3000 people turned out this will again benefit us and they will elect only a few mps assuming no elections will take place in the far east of sool and buhoodle the situation as it is now its looking great.

[Siciid85]

You have raised some good points there. Might i add first of all the Dh soldiers in the Somaliland camp shouldn't be given a very good military training but rather a low or basic 1 nor shall they be trusted with the states powerful weapons such as tanks & other destroyers so whenever they defect to a different side they won't be very experienced soldiers nor would they have weapons much of a value that are similar to that of Somaliland otherwise you have the case of those you trained very well & provided with heavy weapons fighting against you?. Secondly H.Y & H.J or any other Isaaqs for that matter should withdraw most of their soldiers in Eastern Sool, Las Anod areas thus enabling Soldiers, militias mainly made up of Dhullos to get in battle with each other in the eastern front(such as the case of Gambadhe, Tukuraq battles) whenever a fight ensues in those areas. So it will be mostly like this Pro Sland Dh vs Other Dh. So what does H.Y, H.J, H.A, Samaroon, Cisse & other real Somalilander's got to lose? nothing nada. Politics 101.

[SahanGalbeed]

War dhulbahantu waa iska Sarah Palin oo kale Weligood wax ma ahayn , weligood na wax noqon maayan , hadalkooda na la ma' daayo
War inaga ilooba kuwan !

[Cirwaaq]

~I disagree

Finding a way to have dhulbahante become advocates of somaliland is much harder but will give better returns. Nobody is ever going to take away their land or their rights over it.

Every camp needs to begin thinking 10-20 years ahead and decide that which is most beneficial to their future and next generation. War+poverty or peace+welfare.

Some people can be bought, some can be reasoned with others can only be appeased.

Opportunity to have equal/proportional political representation will be presented with the changes in the number of political parties.

If there was ever an opportunity it is here, those that miss it only have themselves to blame.

[CORRUPTION]

i disagree what is the point of having all the Dhulbahantes support Somaliland if only a small section supports you is more then enough The more they are busy with the ssc the better that's how i see it It will keep them occupied going from Somaliland to puntland ssc and other to be created entity's in the future and so on. While isaaq samaroon can continue to explore the resources of the country and development can take place in their part of Somaliland, and at the same time we keep the central and eastern section of sool occupied.That's why i don't support Siilanyos Gogoasha nabada and all that nonsense there is no point of that if Dhulbahante fully embrace Somaliland now it will change the political landscape of Somaliland which is unnecessary maybe in two decades but not now ssc wa mashruuc wanaagsan halaga faiideysto

[Cirwaaq]

It really depends on your OBJECTIVE:

Nation building or minimising opposition within borders

Having opposition is a positive and health prerequsite for political growth, without challenge the Human being is prone to complacency and that is when you get the likes of Gaddafi and salahs of this world.

Politics of a state is incomplete if there isn't some form of interaction that does not represent a atomic nucleus[Protons, Neutrons and Electrons] all components contributing towards the functioning of the UNIT family.

The Ultimate Vision of any state is indivisibility. Even if the interacting parties have 3 different polarities, each is valued on their overall contribution.

All 3 states[positive, negative and neutral] must be incorporated into the whole for prosperity, self critique and the prevention of absolute nepotism.

I will agree with you on a single point. When it is acceptable for isaaq and samaroon members of somaliland to support openly the SSC agenda without experiencing any form of discrimination or prosecution then you have a situation where a platform exists for genuine political maturity. There will then be no complusion in creating an indivisible state only attraction.

[king of kismayo]

this is sad, reminds of the pinky and the brain

pinky: what are going to do tonight. brain
brain: same thing we do everynight pinky, try to take over dhulbahante

[union]

Everyone come together, slaughter the iddor.

[samadoon-waaxid]

the dumbest idoor members blowing hot air and conspirating on us,fabulous.

[Siciid85]

the dumbest idoor members blowing hot air and conspirating on us,fabulous.

Behave yourself like your uncles Xaabsade, Keyse Yusuf Abdi you little scumbag! or risk being kicked out of the SPG.

[SahanGalbeed]

the dumbest idoor members blowing hot air and conspirating on us,fabulous.

Behave yourself like your uncles Xaabsade, Keyse Yusuf Abdi you little scumbag! or risk being kicked out of the SPG.

No, no , inadeer de qofku in jawaab arrin ku saabsan ka bixiyo , waa in loo ogolaada

[Siciid85]

I agree with you that. But he shouldn't call people exchanging ideas on how to put down anti peace elements "dumb or dumbest" or anything like that but rather address the message. It's like me going to the sool section and calling them retards for discussing how to defeat the "SNM" occupation of their lands.

[samadoon-waaxid]

siciid: you are such an imbecile ,SPG ninkii igu daray baa iga tuuri kara,adigana waxba lagaa weydiin maayao.ha kugu taagnaato
sahan:u said dhulbahante waa sarah palin.are u saying ur mom is in the sarah palin category too ?

[Siciid85]

samadoon-waaxid i must have hit a nerve. Well if majority of the SPGers disapprove your stay in that private group surely your stinky Qurijile attitude will be booted out.

[SahanGalbeed]

siciid: you are such an imbecile ,SPG ninkii igu daray baa iga tuuri kara,adigana waxba lagaa weydiin maayao.ha kugu taagnaato
sahan:u said dhulbahante waa sarah palin.are u saying ur mom is in the sarah palin category too ?

, no, no, waa iska kaftan